Location: Near Hrabove, Ukraine Date and time (UTC): 17th July 2014 at 13.20 hrs Passenger airliner MH17 shot down with a Buk-M1 anti-aircraft missile system by Kiev forces. 20140717 local date. MH17 was operated by Malaysian Airlines. A routine flight, except that for some reason Ukrainian air traffic control routed it far to the North of the usual flightpath, and so into the conflict zone. It's also claimed by an air traffic controller at Kiev airport that MH17 was accompanied by two fighter planes until 2 or 3 minutes before the missile impact. It would have been soon passing onwards to Russian airspace. Proven that Kiev forces do have the large BUK-M1 systems in the area. Manpad type anti-aircraft weapons the separatists have, can't reach anywhere near 30,000 ft. 295 dead, including 27 Australians. Wreckage pieces show damage indicating explosive shock-wave driven fragmentation impact on the left side cockpit window area. (NOT bullet holes as many claim.) Consistent with BUK-M1 warhead shaped charge detonation some meters distant. Other wreckage shows aircraft fuselage peeled back to at least the wings area, due to slipstream pressurization of the hull once the cockpit was opened to oncoming airflow. Soot on left hand hull sections, none on right hand hull sections. Many bodies free-fell from altitude. Yet other bodies at the impact site appear to have been secured by setbelts. This file: http://everist.org/archives/links/__Flight_MH17_shootdown_info.txt See also: http://everist.org/archives/links/__Flight_MH17_Akkerman_pics_info.txt http://everist.org/archives/links/__Flight_MH17_bullet_holes_stories.txt http://everist.org/archives/links/__Flight_MH17_flag_location_info.txt http://everist.org/archives/links/__Flight_MH370_disappearance_links.txt http://everist.org/archives/links/__Ukrainian_conflict_info.txt Note: Dates in YYYYMMDD format are generally when I found and saved each article. These may be some days after article publich dates. Discussion ---------- http://slavyangrad.org/reconstructing-the-mh17-catastrophe-link-to-shoutwiki-repository-petri-krohn/ http://acloserlookonsyria.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Talk:Crash_of_Malaysia_Airlines_flight_MH17 Timeline -------- 20140718 I first heard of this in the morning via private email, pointing to a mention on eevblog. http://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/airline-crash-7-17-14/ Thread quickly locked. Ensuing discussion re 'moderation'/censorship here: http://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/arbitrary-moderation/ Truly disgusting behavior from eevblog mods. See http://everist.org/eevblog/ for more on that. 20140717 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/17/flight-mh17-crash-photos_n_5595830.html Flight MH17 Crash Photos Show Absolute Destruction (GRAPHIC IMAGES) 20140718 http://www.smh.com.au/world/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh17-shot-down-over-ukraine-295-dead-27-australians-on-board-20140718-zu9p2.html Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 shot down over Ukraine, 295 dead, 27 Australians on board 20140718 http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/316580 Malaysia passenger plane 'shot down' over Ukraine, 295 dead Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:1PM GMT http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/17/371697/malaysia-plane-shot-down-295-dead/ 20140718 http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/316600 Kiev deployed powerful surface-to-air missile systems to E. Ukraine ahead of the Malaysian plane crash By: RT on: 17.07.2014 [23:12 ] (153 reads) http://rt.com/news/173636-buk-malaysian-plane-crash/ (saved) My comment: It is known exactly who shot it down by TerraHertz on 18.07.2014 [13:22] All radar systems have characteristics that provide distinct signatures, which allow not just identification of the equipment model, but generally also generally differentiation between specific units active in a theater. One of the jobs of military signals intelligence operations is to continually monitor such things, as it provides crucial information on the movements of opponent military units. Given the proximity to Russia, and that Russia definitely does maintain such surveillance, it _should_ become apparent exactly who shot the plane down. Since the Kiev junta bunch of fascists came to power via a process that was funded and manipulated by the CIA and US government (absolutely proven beyond any doubt), and the entire East Ukraine military action is intended to draw Russia into a war that can then easily be caused to go nuclear, thus giving the US government criminals the reprieve they need from the impending US dollar collapse, the 'official narrative' is going to be that the plane was shot down by E Ukraine separatists. Here's an Australian MSM article about the shootdown. htt p://www.smh.com.au/world/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh17-shot-down-over-ukraine-295-dead-27-australians-on-board-20140718-zu9p2.html They at least maintain a facade of impartiality as to which side shot it down. Let's see how long that lasts. I'll also point out that many airliners must have been flying over Ukraine as usual, every day since the beginning of the conflict. It's far too much of a coincidence that a Malyasian one gets shot down. Most likely the reason a Malyasian Airlines plane was chosen for this atrocity, was ongoing payback for Malaysia's attempt to transfer the stolen US mobile drone control base equipment to China, on MH370. Also as for the timing, that would be because the Kiev junta must currently be in a screaming rage at the massive failure of their military attempt to encircle the separatist region and isolate it from Russian. Instead they've had a large portion of their army encircled in the 'southern cauldron', and much of it wiped out in the last two days. They need a huge distraction, to help prevent that humiliating defeat and loss of manpower from becoming public knowledge. http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/316587 Moscow: Kiev allegations that Russian jet downed Ukraine plane absurd (article is talking about a different plane, military, shot down during conflict.) However a reader comment by Shura31 on 17.07.2014 [21:48 ] "Putin's plane crossed the path of MH 17 within half an hour at different altitude. of course. Next thing you know is that these idiots would claim that Putin, himself did the shooting. It is obvious that it was a bomb on the plane itself, since debris and bodies were spread over large area. Maybe they intended it to go off over Russia, but the plane was little late taking off." My comment: What?! Putin's plane was in that airspace shortly before? Then the Ukies shoot down an airliner with a Buk-M1 ? Does anyone else immediately suspect that the Ukies might actually have been attempting to hit Putin's plane, but hit another plane instead due to incompetence? Can anyone confirm the flight paths and times? ------------------ My comment in http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/316600 In htt p://www.iraq-war.ru/article/316587 Moscow: Kiev allegations that Russian jet downed Ukraine plane absurd a reader comment claims Putin's plane (returning from BRICS?) was in the same area less than half an hour before. Also there's news on ZH that MH17 was somewhat off the intended flightpath. Could it be that the Ukies shot MH17 down, thinking it was Putin's plane? But surely, transponder ID, etc...? An alternative idea - Ukies deliberately shot down the 'wrong plane', solely with the intention of making Putin angry - feeling that they'd attempted to kill him personally. The purpose would be to goad him to act impulsively in East Ukraine. To start a Russian armored invasion, exactly as the US-Zio arseholes want, so they can kick off the global nuclear war they badly need. I hope that's not the case, and if it is, that Putin doesn't fall for it. Still, a stray cruise missile into say, the Kiev ministry of defense, or better yet Rothschild's mansion, could be pleasing to see. -------------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SksdL1bEVM Sherie QA - video of bodies http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/ukraine-releases-youtube-clip-proving-rebels-shot-down-malaysian-flight-mh-17 Ukraine Releases YouTube Clip "Proving" Rebels Shot Down Malaysian Flight MH-17 ----------------------- http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/ukraine-releases-youtube-clip-proving-rebels-shot-down-malaysian-flight-mh-17#comment-4971219 http://www.eturbonews.com/48079/ukraine-air-traffic-controller-suggests-kiev-military-shot-down- UKRAINIAN MILLITARY ESCORTED B777 UNTIL 3 MINUTES BEFORE DISAPPEARING Twitter account: https://twitter.com/spainbuca Ukraine air traffic controller suggests Kiev military shot down passenger plane Jul 17, 2014 ETN received information from an air traffic controller in Kiev on Malaysia Airlines flight MH17. This Kiev air traffic controller is a citizen of Spain and was working in the Ukraine. He was taken off duty as a civil air-traffic controller along with other foreigners immediately after a Malaysia Airlines passenger aircraft was shot down over the Eastern Ukraine killing 295 passengers and crew on board. The air traffic controller suggested in a private evaluation and basing it on military sources in Kiev, that the Ukrainian military was behind this shoot down. Radar records were immediately confiscated after it became clear a passenger jet was shot down. Military air traffic controllers in internal communication acknowledged the military was involved, and some military chatter said they did not know where the order to shoot down the plane originated from. Obviously it happened after a series of errors, since the very same plane was escorted by two Ukrainian fighter jets until 3 minutes before it disappeared from radar. Radar screen shots also show an unexplained change of course of the Malaysian Boeing. The change of course took the aircraft directly over the Eastern Ukraine conflict region. Some tweets received suggest this may have been a secret military uprising against the current Ukrainian president under the direction of formerly-jailed Prime Minister Timoshenko. ----------------------------------------- http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/ukraine-releases-youtube-clip-proving-rebels-shot-down-malaysian-flight-mh-17#comment-4971270 The MH17 flight altered course today by flying a lot further north within Ukraine compared to its various flight paths earlier in the week, which within Ukraine had flown over Crimea. See below: MH17 was flying at a distinctly more northerly flight route than usual today (17th) and now over Crimea. Could it have been misled to have been told 'don't fly over Crimea today but fly more northerly'? July 14th flight path http://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/MAS17/history/20140714/1000Z/EHAM/WMKK July 16th flight path http://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/MAS17/history/20140716/1000Z/EHAM/WMKK July 17th flight path (a lot further north within Ukraine) http://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/MAS17/history/20140717/1000Z/EHAM/WMKK The question is why did MH17 have it's flight path altered to the north on 17th and who planned/actioned/authorized/implemented this change? This needs to be investigated, and there will be attempts to bury these details as we speak ---------------------------------- http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/ukraine-releases-youtube-clip-proving-rebels-shot-down-malaysian-flight-mh-17#comment-4971168 The airspace over that part of Ukraine was only restricted at flight levels below something like 32,000 ft due to the conflict - MH17 was about a thousand feet higher. Lots of commercial flights have continued to cross over that part of Ukraine. Nothing unusual about the planned path or altitude. ------------------------------ My comment: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/ukraine-releases-youtube-clip-proving-rebels-shot-down-malaysian-flight-mh-17#comment-4972255 TerraHertz Actually I believe the Gaza action is meant to serve as a distraction from the Ukraine. Gaza won't turn into a global nuclear war, and has no potential to paint Russia as a demon in the MSM. it's just more Israel being the genocidal shits they are. Ukraine on the other hand... the NWO-US-Zionist Satanist plan is to goad Russia into a massed armor invasion, much the same as in Georgia. Then a city the Russians have not yet taken would be nuked, and the Satanists will claim Russia nuked a city. The TV-sucklers of the world would believe it, and game over for any chance of overthrowing the NWO satanists. My guess as to which city, would be Kiev. The Zionists just hate places like that. All those white Christian goyim, ugh! ------------------------------ http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/ukraine-releases-youtube-clip-proving-rebels-shot-down-malaysian-flight-mh-17#comment-4971259 John McCloy I was curious so I noticed something else a little strange. If you look at the bottom of the page you can review every flight for each day of Malaysian Airlines leaving out of Amsterdam. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/MAS17/history/20140717/1000Z/EHAM/WMKK It seems this flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur is a daily flight. I went back and looked at the flight path of every flight from today all the way back until July 4th. It seems they have a very standard pre-programmed plan for this flight. In every flight I looked at just as they are entering the center of Ukraine the plane heads south and crosses over the Sea of Asov typically some 50 miles SOUTH of Mariupol. Each flight with out fail did this aside from one that veers even further south and actually goes directly over the Crimean Peninsula. Of the 15 flights I looked not a single flight has not entered Russia over the Sea of Azov..aside from one..that was today's downed flight which is the only anomaly and for some reason continued straight over Donetsk which is some 100 MILES NORTH of where all the previous flights pathes. ------------ http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/ukraine-releases-youtube-clip-proving-rebels-shot-down-malaysian-flight-mh-17#comment-4972046 This is real, I have confirmed for myself. Ripped the video straight off of youtube with youtube-dl, scanned the metadata with MediaInfo. Screenshot below. http://i.imgur.com/Rtptix8.png This was created a full 20 hours in advance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwtxBA1m9x8 (I saved a copy) -------------- My comment: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/ukraine-releases-youtube-clip-proving-rebels-shot-down-malaysian-flight-mh-17#comment-4972294 http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/316587 Moscow: Kiev allegations that Russian jet downed Ukraine plane absurd (article is talking about a different plane, military, shot down during conflict.) However a reader comment by Shura31 on 17.07.2014 [21:48 ] "Putin's plane crossed the path of MH 17 within half an hour at different altitude. of course. Next thing you know is that these idiots would claim that Putin, himself did the shooting. It is obvious that it was a bomb on the plane itself, since debris and bodies were spread over large area. Maybe they intended it to go off over Russia, but the plane was little late taking off." My comment: What?! Putin's plane was in that airspace shortly before? Then the Ukies shoot down an airliner with a Buk-M1 ? Can anyone confirm the flight paths and times? If it is true that Putin was on a flight through that area around that time, and we knew nothing else, then it might seem that Kiev forces attempted to shoot down Putin's plane but hit the wrong one by mistake. Payback for the BRICS bank, etc. However... if indeed the Ukies gave the plane a two fighter escort until just 3 minutes before the shootdown, and they'd deliberately ordered MH17 to deviate from its usual flight path into that area, then we can be sure they didn't hit the wrong plane. They hit the one they intended to hit. So what's the objective? I can think of a few, which are not mutually exclusive. 1. Further payback to Malaysia, for attempting to ship the stolen US military mobile drone command base station to China on a commercial airliner (MH370.) 2. Attempting to lay the blame for this shootdown on Russia. See comment http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/ukraine-releases-youtube-clip-proving-rebels-shot-down-malaysian-flight-mh-17#comment-4972046 in which the 'recorded conversation' video is shown to have been prepared 20 hours before the event. 3. Probably the primary objective- This shootdown serves the role of a severed horse's head in Putin's bed. It's a threat. "We can reach you. We could have killed you if we wanted." But it's not intended to scare Putin off involvement in Ukraine. Quite the opposite. It's intended to enrage him, to cause him to do something rash. To make the mistake of invading Ukraine in force. This is what the US-Zionist-NWO satanists want him to do. Because if Putin sends armored divisions into Ukraine, the next step in the trap is for the Zionists to nuke a major Ukrainian city and claim Russian forces did it. The Zionist Satan-worshipers would absolutely do that. They're all looking at revolutions and being hung from streetlamps in the US, Britain, etc, once the people experience massive banking/currency collapse, and figure out who's to blame. There's only one way these Elite scum imagine they are going to survive, and that's by initiating a global but limited nuclear war. For that they need a villain. They want Russia to play that part. The shootdown of MH17 is another attempt to kick off WWIII. Only one group want that. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20140718 http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/was-flight-mh-17-diverted-over-restricted-airspace Was Flight MH-17 Diverted Over Restricted Airspace? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/was-flight-mh-17-diverted-over-restricted-airspace#comment-4972230 Aussie V @JuliaS There is a report from a Spanish Air Control Operator operating from a Tower 18 km's outside of Kiev claiming to have proof that Kiev's military ordered the attack but not from the defence Minister but the Minister of the Interior. He claims that there is a huge push within Ukraine to topple Poroshenko and replace him with Tyleshenko (spelling!!! The woman in the wheel chair who was doing time in Prison before being released by the US junta) He claims the plane was shadowed by 2 Ukrainian fighter jets up to 1 minute before the explosion. His translated report is here www.for-the-fans.com http://www.for-the-fans.com/more-from-the-spanish-air-traffic-controller/ http://slavyangrad.wordpress.com/2014/07/18/spanish-air-controller-kiev-borispol-airport-ukraine-military-shot-down-boeing-mh17/ Full texts of the air controller's twitter sends, and English translations. Totally damning of the Kiev authorities, and reveal in internal power struggle in Kieve. ----------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKIlueJg4cA video of the plane being shot down. (Claimed to be) At 0:20 the boom of the missile explosion can be heard. It appears the initial impact can be seen right at the start of the video. This allows an estimate of the distance. Nope. That video is of an AN-30 being downed, June 6th. Here: http://theaviationist.com/2014/06/06/an-30-shot-down-by-manpads/ An-30 gets Hit by Manpad over Slavyansk (2 videos) http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f80_1402065879 ------------------- http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=be9_1405628738 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2eGNPJlkMo Ukrainian Army with Surface to Air missiles near Donetsk on July 5th (see 0:54) Here is a video from a few days ago showing UKR Army in the region in possession of SAM BUK. They have been going crazy suggesting that Russian planes have crossed the border in the recent days and were working hard to shoot it down - a fact. There is a chance Ukrainians did it. They've done this before (look up 2001) they have showed how unprofessional they are. Google BUK-M1 images. Yes, that's what the systems in the video above are. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buk_missile_system Buk missile system The Buk missile system (Russian: "???"; beech, /b?k/ BOOK) is a family of self-propelled, medium-range surface-to-air missile systems developed by the former Soviet Union and Russian Federation and designed to engage cruise missiles, smart bombs, fixed- and rotary-wing aircraft, and unmanned aerial vehicles.[2] WRH: The BUK missile system is thought to be the weapon that downed the Malaysian 777 over Ukraine. FOX News is selling the idea that this system had to be smuggled across the border into Ukraine from Russia but the fact is that prior to the overthrow of Ukraine's elected government by a US-backed junta, Ukraine imported the BUK from Russia and even developed an enhanced radar systems for it which they market to other users of the system. So it is a FACT that the Kiev junta has this weapon. At this point I am thinking Kiev shot the 777 down to try to pin on the Russians, then when the wreckage fell short of the border, on the independence fighters in Eastern Ukraine. One other note. Unlike a MANPAD, the BUK requires a full crew to operate, and cannot be launched by a single person. So if indeed the BUK destroyed the plane, it was a deliberate act, whether by intention or (like TWA 800) locking onto the wrong target. ------------------- http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/ President Putin's plane might have been the target for Ukrainian missile - sources Malaysian Airlines MH17 plane was travelling almost the same route as Russia's President Vladimir Putin's jet shortly before the crash that killed 295, Interfax news agency reports citing sources. LIVE UPDATES:Malaysia Airlines MH17 plane crash in Ukraine "I can say that Putin's plane and the Malaysian Boeing intersected at the same point and the same echelon. That was close to Warsaw on 330-m echelon at the height of 10,100 meters. The presidential jet was there at 16:21 Moscow time and the Malaysian aircraft - 15:44 Moscow time," a source told the news agency on condition of anonymity. "The contours of the aircrafts are similar, linear dimensions are also very similar, as for the coloring, at a quite remote distance they are almost identical", the source added. ----------------------- http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_06_29/Donetsk-militia-takes-control-of-Ukrainian-anti-air-installation-1561/ 29 June, 18:30 Donetsk militia takes control of Ukrainian anti-air installation The self-defense forces of Donetsk People's Republic seized control of a Ukrainian anti-air military installation, RIA Novosti reports. "The forces of Donetsk People's Republic assumed control of A-1402 military base," the militia's representative said. According to him, it is an anti-aircraft missile forces facility equipped with Buk mobile surface-to-air missile systems. During the last several days the militia took control of two internal security troops' installations in eastern Ukraine. ----------------------- 20140718 http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1784.htm Putin Warns Obama Of "Catastrophic War Game" Minutes Before Malaysian Jet Destroyed By: Sorcha Faal The Main Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces (GRU) is reporting today that within 5-minutes of President Putin warning his US counterpart, President Obama, that "war games" being carried out by NATO member Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) forces over Romania could lead to a "potential catastrophe", Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was destroyed over the eastern conflict region of Ukraine. According to this report, Putin was in flight during his call to Obama returning to Moscow aboard his presidential aircraft from Brazil when he was notified that there were a number of "critical radar anomalies" occurring over EUROCONTROL zones in Central Europe. So... there was radar jamming by NATA fighters going on in the area for some time before the shooting down of MH17? This aligns with the 'bodies dead for some days prior to the crash' item. That can only be so if the plane shot down was substituted for MH17 in-flight. And that requires radar jamming, to mask the approach to flightpath of the stand-in plane and the subsequent diversion of the real MH17 to land somewhere. ----------------------- 20140719 http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.it/2014/07/memories-recollection-guesses-and.html Memories, recollections, guesses and speculations about MH17 Their analysis of the situation. Very good. ----------------------- http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.it/2014/07/evidence-continues-to-emerge-mh17-is.html -----Extract----- #9 - 11:53-12:40 - July 18, 2014 - Information Regarding the Boeing from Igor Strelkov - regarding Boeing 777, Flight MH17: Igor Strelkov: According to the information received from the people who collected the corpses, a large number of the corpses are "not fresh" - these are people who died a few days ago. I cannot vouch for complete accuracy of this information - of course, we will have to wait for conclusions from forensic specialists. - "Somebody of course must have been piloting this plane, which, to boot, would be impossible to leave. The theory that the plane was full of dead people is, of course, breathtaking; however, it does not seem to make sense." Igor Strelkov: First of all, not all the people in the plane were dead prior to the fall. Second, a large quantity of medication, including blood serum and so forth, was found in the airplane, which is not characteristic of a regular airliner. It looks like there was some kind of special medical cargo on board. Third, I do not insist on anything (for now). It's just that only moments ago I spoke with two individuals who personally gathered the corpses after the crash (both of them are from Shakhtersk and arrived at the scene less than half an hour after the catastrophe). I am writing exactly what they told me. They emphasized that a large number of the corpses were "completely bloodless" - it's as if their blood clotted long before the catastrophe. They also remarked that there was an overwhelming putrid corpse stench, which was also noted by many locals - a smell like that could not have formed in half an hour in any weather, let alone in the cloudy, temperate weather we had yesterday. Fourth, while I am usually very suspicious of any "conspiracy theories" myself, but the 18 of our fighters that were poisoned with chemical weapons at their positions in Semyonovka, the executions of the militiamen's family members and all other "small joys of Ukie patriots" have convinced me that the Ukrainian government is capable of any villainy. The pilots were, of course, perfectly alive - the entire cabin (and the front part is well preserved) was literally bathed in their blood. ----------------------- 20140719 http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/ukraine-rebels-agree-to/1272158.html Ukraine, rebels agree to security zone around crash site (Photo shows "MRD" on hull) ----------------------- 20140719 My comment to http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/07/memories-recollection-guesses-and.html I am very concerned about the following report from Strelkov, if it is true: http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.it/2014/07/evidence-continues-to-emerge-mh17-is.html -----Extract----- #9 - 11:53-12:40 - July 18, 2014 - Information Regarding the Boeing from Igor Strelkov Igor Strelkov: According to the information received from the people who collected the corpses, a large number of the corpses are "not fresh" - these are people who died a few days ago. I cannot vouch for complete accuracy of this information - of course, we will have to wait for conclusions from forensic specialists. - "Somebody of course must have been piloting this plane, which, to boot, would be impossible to leave. The theory that the plane was full of dead people is, of course, breathtaking; however, it does not seem to make sense." Igor Strelkov: First of all, not all the people in the plane were dead prior to the fall. Second, a large quantity of medication, including blood serum and so forth, was found in the airplane, which is not characteristic of a regular airliner. It looks like there was some kind of special medical cargo on board. -----End extract----- The Novorussian side should consider the possibility, that the plane was deliberately loaded with contagious biological agents. Dead bodies and serum infected with something from the bio-labs of the NWO Satanists. Targeted population cull in action. From their point of view a long latency before appearance of symptoms would be ideal, so the present lack of symptoms means nothing. Remember, Ebola is loose already, so there is a backstory. It would be wise to immediately send samples in full quarantine to Russian medical researchers. Also attempt precautionary isolation of all those who contacted the crash site and victims. I realize this will be impossible, but try. It may gain you time. Pray it's not something airborne, that was spread on the winds from 30,000 feet high. Document the state of the bodies, and begin public warnings that this may have been a biological attack, using the shootdown. Are the identifiable bodies actually those on the passenger list? If yes, investigate their movements in the days prior to supposedly boarding the flight. They can't have been both dead on a gurney somewhere, while also taking a taxi to the airport. Also collect serial numbered parts from the wreckage and check against aircraft timed-replacement maintenance records. Is that actually Flight MH17, or is this yet another swapped plane? Something horrific like this, is exactly what I'd expect from the US-Zionists. TerraHertz PS I am sorry to have to suggest this. ---------------------- 20170720 http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-19/full-passenger-and-cargo-manifest-flight-mh-17 Full Passenger And Cargo Manifest Of Flight MH 17 (as pdfs on scribd) Reader comment: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-19/full-passenger-and-cargo-manifest-flight-mh-17#comment-4977306 Interestingly, there were exactly 9 years and 11 days inclusive between 7th July 2005 (London bombings) and 17 July 2014 (MH 17) That's 9 11 between 7/7/7 and 7/17/7 20140721 http://www.globalresearch.ca/malaysian-airlines-mh17-weathering-the-propaganda-firestorm/5392329 Malaysian Airlines MH17: Weathering the Propaganda Firestorm The level of unsubstantiated propaganda being directed against Russia regarding the downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 has reached unprecedented lows. There is tangible desperation across Western media establishments, their political spheres, and within their corporate-financier funded policy think-tanks as they attempt to reassert their agenda and narrative not only upon the crisis in Ukraine, but upon the entire world as their weakening grip becomes apparent to all. The dangerous desperation emanating from the West follows the latest in a series of growing failures - the previous and most comparable being the loss of its proxy war against Syria and the desperate criminal conspiracy they unleashed in a failed attempt to save it. 20140721 http://investmentwatchblog.com/boom-kiev-caught-plotting-crash-of-malaysia-flight-mh17-before-it-happened/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c__Fm5liCo http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/741521 BOOM! Kiev Caught Plotting Crash of Malaysia Flight MH17 , Before It Happened! Published on Jul 20, 2014 http://www.undergroundworldnews.com Smoking Gun! And that smoking gun was supplied by Kiev Itself! The same smoking gun they used to shoot themselves in the foot! The fact they came public, pushing the fabricated story, Showed Us All That They Support It! We then Busted their video as a fraud! We discovered it was created almost a full day before the crash. Now we have Experts that have verified the Kiev supplied video as a fraud, and that it Was Made The DAY BEFORE! That's Huge! That Proves they Knew! It proves Kiev Knew Flight MH17 Was going to crash, A DAY BEFORE IT HAPPENED! They smoked themselves on this one! Im just the messenger :) 20140722 http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-21/key-piece-video-"evidence"-russian-responsibility-malaysian-plane-shootdown-debunked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsbC8yDeGUw Key Piece of Video "Evidence" for Russian Responsibility for Malaysian Plane Shootdown Debunked https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ministry-of-Internal-Affairs-of-Ukraine/155391354568653 20140723 http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/1d6a9ac2-10e3-11e4-b116-00144feabdc0.html#axzz389ur9YiN http://defensetech.org/2014/07/21/mh17-wreckage-photo-shows-evidence-of-shrapnel/ MH17 crash: FT photo shows signs of damage from missile strike (Very clear shrapnel damage, to port side cockpit area.) 20140724 http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/cockpit-voice-recorder-of-mh17-not-tampered-with-say-dutch-investigators-564022 Cockpit Voice Recorder of MH17 Not Tampered With, Say Dutch Investigators "The cockpit voice recorder was damaged but the memory module was intact. Furthermore, no evidences or indications of manipulation of the cockpit voice recorder were found", the Dutch Safety Board (OVV) said as the black boxes were being analysed in Britain. 20140724 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmQ_4pf9hV8 The REAL Reason MH17 Was Shot Down 20140724 (pub 20140721) http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/leader-of-prorussian-rebels-agrees-to-hand-over-black-boxes-of-tragic-flight-mh17-30447421.html Leader of pro-Russian rebels agrees to hand over black boxes of tragic flight MH17 - See more at: http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/leader-of-prorussian-rebels-agrees-to-hand-over-black-boxes-of-tragic-flight-mh17-30447421.html#sthash.8Vkuwex2.dpuf 20140717 http://www.ibtimes.com/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh17-passenger-took-photo-doomed-jet-posts-image-boeing-777-1631696 Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 Passenger Took Photo Of Doomed Jet, Posts Image Of Boeing 777 To Facebook ... except it's the wrong plane. 'RC' not 'RD' https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=465419050262262&set=a.121009184703252.21333.100003825135026&type=1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_qt70FEv1Y4 Absolute Proof MH17 Photo from Facebook NOT the same plane that crashed in Ukraine 20140724 http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/07/24/mh17-various-identification-process-cause-of-delay/ MH17: Identification process cause of delay in sending bodies home 20140726 http://www.anderweltonline.com/wissenschaft-und-technik/luftfahrt-2014/schockierende-analyse-zum-abschuss-der-malaysian-mh-017/ Schockierende Analyse zum Abschuss der Malaysian MH 017 http://investmentwatchblog.com/new-mh17-sensation-german-experts-point-finger-at-ukrainian-air-force-jets/ Surface to air missile attack ruled out as calibre of cockpit bullet holes puts Ukraine pilots in the frame for MH17 murders My comment to http://investmentwatchblog.com/new-mh17-sensation-german-experts-point-finger-at-ukrainian-air-force-jets/ Linked in the original German article, is this picture in a pdf: http://www.anderweltonline.com/fileadmin/user_upload/PDF/Cockpit-MH017.pdf It's a VERY hi-res photo of the cockpit hull section clearly showing weapon impact. To me it looks like result of a nearby explosive directed fragmentation weapon. All penetrations are from outside, with the peel-back of outer metal skin layer around inner layer inward puncture holes due to high pressure gas jets following penetrators, and getting between the metal skin layers. Also most telling - the thousands of small 'pepper impact craters' that don't penetrate. These are made by fine particles in the explosive jet. Also the general mottled darkening - burn marks on the outside. Possibly from the explosion of the plane, but more likely the impact of the external explosive burst of the fragmentation weapon. There's mottled white-ish corrosion in bare metal spots too, that is what you get when bare aluminum alloy is coated with the corrosive residues of combustion, then weathered for a day or two. Seems very unlikely to me that this is cannon shell damage. The mark on the wing piece is just scrape and penetration damage during the ground impact. Given the Kiev government (Interior Ministry) are proven to have planned this, by their release of that faked 'evidence of Separatist-Russian guilt' recording which turned out to have been edited together 20 hours prior to the shoot-down, I'm sticking with the BUK-M1 fired by Ukrainian forces, deliberately to create a false flag atrocity. Though of course it's possible it was hit by an air-to-air missile from a Kiev fighter jet. Even that it was hit by BOTH a BUK-M1 and a fighter's missile, just to be really sure. I'd also suggest the choice of a Malaysian Airlines plane as victim implies those involved (or their US masters) know what happened to MH370 - because they were responsible for that too. Later thoughts: * Another reason there's no way those are cannon shell holes, is they are too small and of varying size. Compare them to the rivets and screw heads. There are holes from nearly as small as the rivits, up to several times larger. Also a variety of shapes of penetrations, suggesting tumbling fragments. * The white-ish corrosion spots are each centered on a pepper-impact crater. Says the chemical contamination of the metal was carried by the specks, and they carried residues of the explosive creation of the fragments. --------------------------- 20140730. The above comment did not appear. Try again: 20140726 http://www.anderweltonline.com/wissenschaft-und-technik/luftfahrt-2014/schockierende-analyse-zum-abschuss-der-malaysian-mh-017/ Schockierende Analyse zum Abschuss der Malaysian MH 017 http://investmentwatchblog.com/new-mh17-sensation-german-experts-point-finger-at-ukrainian-air-force-jets/ Surface to air missile attack ruled out as calibre of cockpit bullet holes puts Ukraine pilots in the frame for MH17 murders My comment to http://investmentwatchblog.com/new-mh17-sensation-german-experts-point-finger-at-ukrainian-air-force-jets/ Linked in the original German article, is this picture contained in a 2.37 MB pdf: http://www.anderweltonline.com/fileadmin/user_upload/PDF/Cockpit-MH017.pdf It's a hi-res (4096 x 2730) photo of the cockpit hull section clearly showing weapon impact. For those worried about pdfs, I have converted the image-in-a-pdf to a plain 2.79 MB jpg image (quality 10) here: http://everist.org/MH017/Cockpit-MH017_q10.jpg Not edited, just load pdf, select image, save-as jpg. I chose a jpg quality factor that slightly increased the file size, to minimize jpg loss of detail. Would have used non-lossy png, except then the file size was 14MB! To me it looks like result of an explosive directed fragmentation weapon, with the explosion occurring near enough that both shrapnel and supersonic gas products of the explosion reached MH17's hull. All penetrations are from outside, with the peel-back of outer metal skin layer around inner layer inward puncture holes due to high pressure gas jets following penetrators, and getting between the metal skin layers. Also most telling - the thousands of small 'pepper impact craters' that don't penetrate. These are made by fine particles in the explosive shock wave. Around the edge of the window and some other areas where unpainted metal was exposed, these pepper impacts have surrounding mottled white-ish corrosion of the aluminum, that is what you get when bare aluminum alloy is coated with the corrosive residues of explosives, then weathered for a day or two. So we can be certain the high velocity grains that made the tiny impact craters were carrying residue from an explosive. Another telling feature is that all the pepper impact marks are on the outer metal layer, with *none* on the surface of the inner layer exposed by peel-back of the outer layer. This tells us the sequence of events. An explosive shockwave carrying both the fine particles and the larger penetrators arrived simultaneously across the surface. Fine particles made their craters, as the larger fragments began penetrating. By the time the large fragments had penetrated most of the way through, and trailing gas streams in the event were starting to force between the metal layers, peeling the outer skin back, there were no more small grains arriving. Hence the inner surfaces are unmarked apart from charing. As for the hole sizes and shapes, ignore the outer layer as these are mostly the final result of distortion and tearing due to gas penetration between the metal layers. Consider only the inner layer holes. These can be sized by comparing them to the adjacent rivet and screw heads. There are a continuous range of hole sizes, from smaller than the rivets, to around 8 times the rivet size. Almost all of these are smaller than 30mm cannon shells. The holes also have a variety of shapes, which suggests they are made by small tumbling metal fragments - from a fragmentation warhead. Incidentally there's no apparent linear alignment of the holes, as might occur with a stream of cannon shells. Also cannon fire would not have an associated spread of fine grain particles still moving at supersonic speed sufficient to form small craters in metal. Nor would cannon fire produce the general mottled darkening - burn marks on the outside. Possibly from the explosion of the plane, but more likely the impact of the external explosive burst of the fragmentation weapon. Lastly the physical impact of cannon shells on the double layer areas of aluminum hull would produce holes with both metal sheets deformed inwards. Instead here we see a deformation in which the inner layer is bent inwards, while the outer layer is peeled back outwards to varying degrees - but only where there is an inner layer. This can only happen where pressurized (high velocity) gas has entered between the layers during the impact, and peeled back the outer layer. Some of the peeled-back sheets still show evidence of inward-going penetration at their very edges. Therefore it is impossible that the damage seen is the result of cannon fire. The mark on the wing piece in another photo is just scrape and penetration damage during the ground impact. Given the Kiev government (Interior Ministry) are proven to have planned this, by their release of that faked 'evidence of Separatist-Russian guilt' recording which turned out to have been edited together 20 hours prior to the shoot-down, I'm sticking with the BUK-M1 fired by Ukrainian forces, deliberately to create a false flag atrocity. Though of course it's possible it was hit by an air-to-air missile from a Kiev fighter jet. Even that it was hit by BOTH a BUK-M1 and a fighter's missile, just to be really sure. In all cases the Kiev leadership are the guilty. The German 'expert's' article claiming the damage is due to cannon fire is so non-nonsensical that it has to be a disinformation effort. However it did include the hi-res image of the hull section which had already appeared elsewhere in lo-res form, so it was useful. Once again the rule is proven - ignore 'expert opinions', examine the best pictures closely with your own eyes and brain. ---------------------------------- 20140730 https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4046811478707691837&postID=8733358386197166352 Reader comment: Anonymous said... BREAKING ABC NEWS KIEV USED 3 BALLISTIC MISSLES ON MH17 CRASH SITE http://www.moonofalabama.org/2014/07/ukraine-pentagon-sees-ballistic-missile-launches-why-then-no-mh17-data.html Ukraine: Pentagon Sees Ballistic Missile Launches - Why Then No MH17 Data? Reader comment there links: https://secure.flickr.com/photos/jeroenakkermans/sets/72157645471359080/ Lots of hi-res pics of wreckage. 20140730 http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/could-glazev-be-right-request-for-your.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWT5HM_NMlI US is militarizing Ukraine to invade Russia. Sergei Glazyev (See also my comment.) http://cluborlov.blogspot.ca/2014/07/saving-face.html Dmitry Orlov said... There is no evidence that the rebels did it. They also had no means to do so. Whether it was shot down from the ground or from the air will become obvious once the wreckage is examined by someone familiar with the weapons systems involved. The rockets carried by Su-25 shoot rods, the Buk M1 shoots cubes. They are not destroyed in a crash. Find a rod or a cube in the wreckage, and you have the answer. Tuesday, July 29, 2014 at 12:16:00 PM EDT 20140730 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFzM6yE3qqc New 'Last Photo' of MH17 Exposes Reuters! Confirms Passengers Boarded Another Flight! A 2nd photo of the MH17 plane before departure at Amsterdam, this time taken and published by Reuters. This one also has the number RC not RD. 20140802 http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/mike-whitney/57315/something-sinister-going-on-the-unanswered-questions-of-mh17 Something Sinister Going On? The Unanswered Questions of MH17 20140804 Malaysian Air Probes Are Led By Perpetrators Of The Lockerbie Cover-up http://www.rense.com/general96/malayperp.html Adding scandal to a double tragedy, the official investigations into both the midair destruction of MH17 and the MH-370 disappearance are being led by the same team that perpetrated the cover-up of the PanAm 103 bombing over Lockerbie, Scotland. Cloaked in secrecy, the Air Accident Investigation Branch (AAIB) is an agency of the UK Transport Ministry, which was created by Royal Army and reputedly connected with the MI-6 spy service, the Crown and the House of Rothschild. The current chief investigator, Keith Conradi, is an appointee of former Transport Minister Andrew Adonis, an orphan who rose though the ranks of Labour as a protege of Evelyn de Rothschild and his political operative Peter Mandelson. Sir Evelyn has a key role in the dynastic fortune as honorary chairman at the NM Rothschild & Sons, an investment bank in the City of London. The Rothschild fingerprints on both Malaysian Air incidents are too extensive to be mere coincidence but are instead indicative of a pattern related to their geopolitical objectives of upgrading Israeli military technology and extending control over banking and energy resources, especially in target countries Russia and Iran. 20140804 http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/robert-parry/57353/flight-17-shoot-down-scenario-shifts Flight 17 Shoot-Down Scenario Shifts 20140809 http://www.bollyn.com/home/#article_14814 The Israeli Photo of MH17 - Who is Yaron Mofaz? Updated August 3, 2014 20140811 http://www.nst.com.my/node/20925 US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft INTELLIGENCE analysts in the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it. This corroborates an emerging theory postulated by local investigators that the Boeing 777-200 was crippled by an air-to-air missile and finished off with cannon fire from a fighter that had been shadowing it as it plummeted to earth. In a damning report dated Aug 3, headlined “Flight 17 Shoot-Down Scenario Shifts”, Associated Press reporter Robert Parry said “some US intelligence sources had concluded that the rebels and Russia were likely not at fault and that it appears Ukrainian government forces were to blame”. This new revelation was posted on GlobalResearch, an independent research and media organisation. (More 'cannon fire' bullshit) 20140811 http://www.bollyn.com/#article_14832 Christopher Bollyn - "The Downing of MH17 - Is Israel Involved?" Furthermore, Yaron Mofaz, a relative of Shaul Mofaz, former chief of staff of the Israeli military, oddly took a photograph of the ill-fated Malaysian plane at the airport in Amsterdam shortly before it was shot down, which he then provided to Reuters. Yaron Mofaz also happens to be a director of a Mofaz family company that works closely with a company in Florida that owns a former Malaysia Airlines airliner, virtually identical to the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 and MH17. This Malaysian airliner, it just so happens, was sent to Israel in late 2013 where it was parked in a hangar in Tel Aviv. For these and other reasons it is logical that we consider the possibility that the shooting down of MH17 was an Israeli false-flag operation with a twist. Therefore, the real question is not whether Israel was involved, but to what degree was Israel involved in the atrocity? - (Christopher Bollyn falling for the 'bullet holes' line. Other points good. But fails to mention the RC vs RD mystery.) 20140823 http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.it/2014/08/the-significance-of-russian-decision-to.html PS: I heard yesterday evening that Holland has officially announced that it will not release the full info of the flight data and voice recorders of MH17. Thus Holland has now become an official accomplice to the cover-up of this US false-flag operation and to the murder of the passengers of MH17. This is absolutely outrageous and disgusting I and sure hope that the Malaysian government will not allow this. As for Kiev, it is also sitting on the recording of the communications between the Kiev ATC and MH17. Finally, the USA has it all through its own signals intelligence capabilities. So they all know and they are all covering up. Under the circumstances, can anybody still seriously doubt "who done it"? 20140824 http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-causes-of-the-mh17-crash-are-classified-ukraine-netherlands-australia-belgium-signed-a-non-disclosure-agreement/5397194 The Causes of the MH17 Crash are “Classified”. Ukraine, Netherlands, Australia, Belgium Signed a “Non-disclosure Agreement” On August 8, Ukraine, the Netherlands, Australia and Belgium signed a non-disclosure agreement pertaining to data obtained during the investigation into the causes of the crash of Malaysian Airlines MH17 In the framework of the 4-country agreement signed on 8 August between Ukraine, the Netherlands, Belgium and Australia, information on the progress and results of the investigation of the disaster will remain classified. IF true, this silence is meant to continue to frame Russia and exonerate Ukraine. As reported in counterpsyops.com on 10 August 2014: A Thursday article in the New Straits Times, Malaysia’s flagship English-language newspaper, charged the US- and European-backed Ukrainian regime in Kiev with shooting down Malaysian Airlines flight MH 17 in east Ukraine last month. Given the tightly controlled character of the Malaysian media, it appears that the accusation that Kiev shot down MH17 has the imprimatur of the Malaysian state. The US and European media have buried this remarkable report, which refutes the wave of allegations planted by the CIA in international media claiming that Russian president Vladimir Putin was responsible for the destruction of MH17, without presenting any evidence to back up this charge. The New Straits Times article, titled “US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft,” lays out evidence that Ukrainian fighter aircraft attacked the jetliner with first a missile, then with bursts of 30-millimeter machine gun fire from both sides of MH17. The Russian army has already presented detailed radar and satellite data showing a Ukrainian Sukhoi-25 fighter jet tailing MH17 shortly before the jetliner crashed. The Kiev regime denied that its fighters were airborne in the area, however. The New Straits Times article began, “Intelligence analysts in the United States have already concluded that Malaysia flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it. This corroborates an emerging theory postulated by local investigators that the Boeing 777-200 was crippled by an air-to-air missile and finished off with cannon fire from a jet that had been shadowing it as it plummeted to earth.” It cited “experts who had said that the photographs of the blast fragmentation patterns on the fuselage of the airliner showed two distinct shapes—the shredding pattern associated with a warhead packed with ‘flechettes,’ and the more uniform, round-type penetration holes consistent with that of cannon rounds.” 20140813 http://www.bollyn.com/ (no direct url for article) The Downing of MH17 - Is Israel Involved? Updated August 13, 2014 20140831 http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/blog/tom-sullivan/facts-withheld-regarding-mh17-malaysian-airlines-crash-dutch-government-refuses Facts withheld regarding the MH17 Malaysian airlines crash. Dutch Government Refuses to Release Black Box Recordings On Aug. 11, the Dutch Safety Board announced that a preliminary report would be published in a week with the first factual finding of the ongoing investigation into the flight that departed from Amsterdam and crashed in Ukraine. The Netherlands was given custody of the flight data recorder, or black box recordings, from the crash. As of Aug. 25, the Dutch government has refused to release the recordings. This, of course, immediately raises suspicions that the Kiev junta forces were responsible for the crash. 20140910 http://americanfreepress.net/?p=19317 Available Evidence Shows Ukrainian Missile Battery Shot Down Malaysian Plane U.S. investigative journalist, Russian defense officials insist it was Ukraine—not Russia—that shot down passenger airliner. Within 24 hours of the downing of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 over eastern Ukraine, Washington and the mass media pointed an accusing finger at Russia without a shred of evidence. They have still not produced evidence to back claims Russia provided pro-Russian militias in Ukraine with a Buk missile battery that took down the Boeing plane on July 17, 2014, killing everyone on board. Instead, the initial efforts to portray Russia as the bad guy to further damage the image of Russian President Vladimir Putin and provide a case for added economic sanctions against Russia have been replaced by a deafening silence and a willingness to deny the public evidence, which could point to the real perpetrators. 20140910 http://theinternetpost.net/2014/09/09/mh17-was-struck-by-multiple-high-energy-objects-from-outside-the-aircraft-crash-report-reveals/ MH17 Was Struck By Multiple “High-Energy Objects From Outside The Aircraft”, Crash Report Reveals Over a month after the crash of flight MH 17 over east Ukraine, and with the confiscated Air Traffic Control voice recording still kept confidential by a western-led task force for reasons unknown, overnight the Dutch Safety Board released its preliminary report on the causes of the crash. As the AP reported, it agency “stopped short of saying the Boeing 777 was shot down by a missile, but its findings appear to point to that conclusion. It also did not say who might have been responsible.” Actually, what the Dutch report did say is the following: MH17 was struck by multiple “high-energy objects from outside the aircraft,” causing it to break up over eastern Ukraine, a preliminary report into the deadly aviation disaster concluded Tuesday. http://www.onderzoeksraad.nl/uploads/phase-docs/701/b3923acad0ceprem-rapport-mh-17-en-interactief.pdf 20140913 http://www.globalresearch.ca/camouflage-and-coverup-the-dutch-commission-report-on-the-malaysian-mh17-crash-is-not-worth-the-paper-its-written-on/5400990 Camouflage and Coverup: The Dutch Commission Report on the Malaysian MH17 Crash is “Not Worth the Paper it’s Written On” By Peter Haisenko (The same german pilot who wrote the 1st "bullets" article) One thing must be stated outright: This report does not lie. It just can’t lie since there is nothing new in it. I myself have never seen such a meaningless plane crash report. What comes as a surprise, however, is the report’s diplomatic, sophisticated choice of words, which loses itself in ambiguous terminology. It was probably planned this way, so each party can continue to defend their version of what happened with zeal. 20141010 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2786466/Dutch-official-reveals-body-recovered-MH17-crash-site-wearing-OXYGEN-mask-suggesting-conscious-missile-hit.html 20141012 http://rt.com/news/195128-mh17-crash-cyberberkut-leak/ Kiev secretly received data from MH17 crash investigators Ukrainian CyberBerkut hacktivists claim that they have penetrated the internal network of Ukraine’s Defense Ministry and found proof that Kiev is getting secret data from MH17 crash investigators, including information which implies its involvement. A document, posted on the website cyber-berkut.net, and allegedly downloaded from Ukraine’s Defense Ministry network, dates back to August 7 and appears to be signed by Colonel Igor Zorin, the chief of Ukraine’s air defense forces. It is a report which maintains that a fragment of a projectile found together with the debris of the crashed flight MH17 is in fact a damage agent of a 9M38 surface-to-air guided missile belonging to the mobile air defense complex Buk or Buk M1. (a type Russia doesn't use) http://cyber-berkut.net/ http://cyber-berkut.net/en/ http://cyber-berkut.net/traitors/0025.php Photos of BUKM1 fragment 20141022 http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.it/2014/10/german-intelligence-report-on-mh17.html German intelligence report on MH17 by Alexander Mercouris It seems the German intelligence agency the BND has provided a Bundestag committee with a report that once again attributes the MH17 shoot down to the NAF. The report has not been published but for me the single most interesting thing in it is that it apparently finally demolishes the theory that MH17 was shot down by a BUK system secretly transferred to the NAF by the Russians. We are back it seems to the theory that the NAF shot down MH17 with a BUK missile system it captured from the Ukrainians. 20141025 http://russia-insider.com/en/tv_ukraine/2014/10/24/04-54-03pm/new_mh-17_crash_evidence_points_kiev_involvement_25_min New MH-17 Crash Evidence Points to Kiev Involvement (25 min) Documentary sheds light on who might be responsible for the tragedy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Ujoj4n1Z4 (Some good details, but omits any mention of ALL the crucial details. Also another 'bullet holes' story.) 20141115 http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/migshootmh17.html Mig 29 shoot down of MH17 confirmed, and Putin knew it from DAY ONE. Russia can hack American spy satellites http://www.1tv.ru/news/leontiev/271824 20141116 http://russia-insider.com/en/politics_ukraine_media_watch_society/2014/11/12/09-42-58pm/dutch_are_angry_about_their_governments?page=0%2C0 The Dutch are Angry With Government Fiddling of MH17 20141121 http://rt.com/news/207243-netherlands-mh17-investigation-documents/ Dutch government refuses to reveal ‘secret deal’ into MH17 crash probe The Dutch government has refused to reveal details of a secret pact between members of the Joint Investigation Team examining the downed Flight MH17. If the participants, including Ukraine, don’t want information to be released, it will be kept secret. 20141207 https://www.intellihub.com/families-mh17-victims-demand-un-takes-dutch-investigation/ Families of MH17 victims ‘demand UN takes over Dutch investigation’ Relatives of MH17 crash victims have addressed the Netherlands requesting the UN takes over the investigation into the downing of the passenger plane over Ukraine, blaming the Dutch of mishandling the inquiries into the disaster, media report. 20141210 http://journal-neo.org/2014/12/08/alternative-media-and-the-mh17-jit-reversal/ Alternative Media and the MH17 JIT Reversal After weeks of protests and growing suspicion, Dutch authorities overseeing the investigation of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 have finally included Malaysia as a member of its Joint Investigation Team (JIT). Malaysia had made it clear it was immensely displeased with its inexplicable exclusion from JIT formed after the downing of MH17 over eastern Ukraine. Including NATO members (Belgium and the Netherlands), a defacto NATO collaborator (Australia) and a potential culprit in the air disaster (Ukraine), Malaysia’s exclusion looked to be a part of an ongoing cover-up amid a larger attempt to use the disaster to frame Russia and advance NATO’s agenda in Eastern Europe. 20141224 http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.it/2014/12/new-testimony-about-shooting-down-of.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiH8KZOfNfg New testimony about the shooting down of MH17 Interesting news this morning: the Russian newspaper Komsomolskaia Pravda has interviewed a man who claims to have been a witness to the take-off of three aircraft one of which allegedly shot down MH17. 20141225 http://rinf.com/alt-news/featured/another-mh17-cover-hiding-key-autopsy/ Another MH17 Cover-Up: Hiding a Key Autopsy Decisive evidence as to how the July 17th shooting-down of the MH17 Malaysian airliner occurred is being hidden by the four-nation team that’s doing the official ‘investigation’ into the plane-downing incident. This decisive evidence is the coroner’s report on the corpse of the airliner’s pilot. If the pilot was killed by bullets, then the standard ‘explanation’ of the downing (that the plane was downed by a ground-fired missile) isn’t just false, it’s an outright hoax. So: where’s the pilot’s autopsy? 20150107 http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.it/2015/01/not-buk-m1-missile-full-report-and.html 20150125 http://fortruss.blogspot.com.au/2014/12/meet-pilot-who-shot-down-malysian.html Meet The Pilot Who Shot Down Malaysian Boeing MH-17 - Vladislav Voloshin: "The Plane Was In the Wrong Place at the Wrong Time" http://www.kp.ru/daily/26323.5/3204312/ 20150306 http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/133434.html How the Malaysian "Boeing" was shot down 20150330 http://www.rt.com/news/245141-reuters-witness-misreport-mh17/ ‘Reuters lied’: MH17 witness says reporter falsified testimony Published time: 30 Mar, 2015 08:30 20150509 http://fortruss.blogspot.com.au/2015/05/it-was-buk-m1-classified-russian-report.html "It was Buk-M1"--Classified Russian report on MH17 published http://www.novayagazeta.ru/inquests/68332.html The russian report "It was Buk-M1" Novaya Gazeta, a Russian newspaper known for its "liberal" and "ooppositionist" leanings, acquired a copy of a classified investigation performed by Russian aviation and missile specialists (including from the design bureau which created the Buk air defense system). The entire rather lengthy report is at the link, but here are the "money 'graphs". On the basis of known information about the nature of the damage and the shape of the fragments that have struck the airliner, they have come to the conclusion the missile in question was a Buk-M1. However, the graphic at the top rules out the possibility the missile was launched from the vicinity of Novorossia-held Snezhnoye (which is what the Ukrainian and NATO version allege) because of the fragmentation pattern Buk warheads create. If the missile came from Snezhnoye, in other words, if it was launched from nearly directly in front of the aircraft, one would not see extensive fragmentation damage both of the cockpit area and the engine, wings, and rear control surfaces. For such a pattern of damage to have occurred, the missile would have had to arrive at a trajectory more closely perpendicular to the airliner's flight course. In other words, it would have had to come from Ukrainian-held territory, specifically from the vicinity of the town of Zaproshchenskoye. The reports also points out that Russian MOD briefing issued only a few days after the MH17 shoot-down published Russian recon satellite photos showing the presence of Ukrainian Buk missile systems precisely in that location, namely near Zaproshchenskoye. Quite possibly the main reason why NATO has, for all intents and purposes, dropped the MH17 issue like a hot potato is because they have come to similar conclusions which, for obvious enough political reasons, can never see the light of day. 20150530 http://thesaker.is/saker-interview-with-ramzes-a-spetsnaz-gru-officer/ The Saker: Recently there have been speculations in the Russian media about MH17 being shot down by a BUK missile after all. In that hypothesis the Ukrainians managed to drive a BUK missile launcher into the the territory of the DNR undetected and then fired at MH17. Do you believe that it is possible for a Ukrainian crew drive a MH17 missile launcher undetected into the DNR-controlled territory and fire it in order to blame the Novorussians for the shot? Ramzes: I have a special attitude regarding this. I was in the sky on July 17th at the exact time MH17 was shot down. I saw a military military plane in the sky. There is only one military plane that can be in the sky at this time. Only a Ukrainian military jet could be in the airspace at that time. I was not the only person who saw this military plane. Many of us saw it. I saw it with my own eyes. The state that media then reported that Ukrainians denied having a plane in the air at that time. So ask yourself why are they lying? I checked an American run flight path tracking website and I saw my commercial flight, I saw MH17, I saw that at that exact time (20 minutes after MH17) my commercial plane’s flight path was logged on this website. The next day discussing this with fellow officers and friends we looked at the website again and in less than 24 hours my commercial flight was not on this web site . Why would they delete the flight record of a commercial flight? This is a daily scheduled flight from Greece to Russia. This flight appears on the July 16 and on July 18, and it was there on July 17 as per its regular schedule yet it was removed from the record on July 17th. If a BUK was also involved it makes sense, as military redundancy is always a practice employed when striking a target. It makes sense to have it hit by military jets, then by a BUK then by a bomb inside the aircraft and so on… This all points to a high level of preparation for this attack. However I do not think this was executed by high level professional operatives, it was most likely done by someone who could order ground units and planes to attack (read Oligarch) but not someone slick enough to have a bomb on board or make this look like an accident (read CIA or Special Ops). It could be CIA if they wanted to make it look like an Oligarch to trigger anger and a response. Again anything is possible but we know 100% it was not local fighters from the DNR or LNR. Especially not with Russia in any way supporting such craziness. The event was made to be the most important news, which implies it was a diversionary tactic for public consumption while on the ground troops were amassing and preparing for and initiating battles. Again, it was a cover for engagement. Clearly the LNR and DNR are suing for peace as is Moscow. So this tragedy was a clear and important pivot to make the world to pay attention and while the world paid attention to MH17 other orders were being executed on the ground to create the pretext for a full war. --------------------------------------- 20150719 http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/the-strange-case-of-carlos-the-spanish-air-controller/ The strange case of Carlos the Spanish air traffic controller The mysterious case of Spanish air traffic controller claimed to have been working in Borispol airport (Kiev) when MH17 was shot down and who claims that the Boeing was shot down by military jets on the instruction of the Kiev Junta http://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/view/127516-amenazar-controlador-espanol-ucrania-crisis https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mwy9zl4ys8kpgau/AACtFG3e6ltGEhnmB4pphI0Sa#/ twitter account deleted< – – >Screenshot from his account: http://i.imgur.com/SyHbpNA.jpg 20150719 http://investmentwatchblog.com/leaked-report-suggests-israel-shot-down-mh17-flight/ Leaked Report Suggests Israel Shot Down MH17 Flight Aviation security experts who led a report on Malaysian Airlines MH17 last year say that the flight may have been shot down by an Israeli Python air-to-air missile. The leaked report was released by the private LiveJournal account belonging to Albert Naryshkin (albert_lex), and has gone viral on Russian social media websites. http://www.rt.com/news/310039-mh17-israeli-missile-version/ Israeli-made air-to-air missile may have downed MH17 - report 20150831 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgWU-7zjUww Video about MH370 wing part founf on Reunion Isl. A reader comment: cplifj 1 day ago Malaysia lies on everything in this case. good post. It was unnatural coincidence they just found this peace when the dutch were to divulge their research of MH17. There were posts that MH17 was not MH 17 but in fact it would have been MH370 they shot down over Ukraine. All these things coincided within days/weeks. Someone is playing a very dirty game. I also know that some people on MH17 were to go to the aidscongres in Australia and were going to divulge something very important about this AIDS. (its inventor/manufacturer perhaps?) offcours this will remain officially speculation now. 20150917 http://www.icao.int/newsroom/pages/icao-receives-preliminary-report-on-mh17-accident-investigation.aspx http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-09-09/flight-mh17-crash-report-answers-one-question Flight MH17 Crash Report Answers One Question Sept 9, 2014 By Leonid Bershidsky At first glance, the preliminary report on the July 17 crash of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over eastern Ukraine is pretty thin gruel. It does, however, rule out most explanations except the one that involves a ground-to air-missile. At the same time, it ends hopes that flight data might somehow reveal who shot down the plane, killing its 283 passengers and 15 crew members. 20151013 http://www.onderzoeksraad.nl/ Final report, MH17 http://cdn.onderzoeksraad.nl/documents/report-mh17-crash-en.pdf 20151013 http://tass.ru/en/world/828218 MH17 probe results to be invalid without Russia’s data — experts "If the commission investigating the Malaysian MH17 crash in the Netherlands ignores in its report materials of the expert study of [Russia’s] Almaz-Antei concern, we can be certain the results of the investigation will be unreliable, based on unverified information and, probably, politically motivated in a bid to spare those responsible for this catastrophe from responsibility," Igor Korotchenko, editor-in-chief of the National Defense Journal, told TASS, commenting on the recent statement by deputy head of Russia’s Federal Air Transport Agency Oleg Storchevoy, who said in an interview with Malaysia’s New Straits Times that the Netherland was ignoring any related information from Russia. He said in terms of mathematical and engineering modelling, Almaz-Antei had given a comprehensive picture of the crash, established an area from where the missile had been launched. Back then, he said, this area was controlled by the Ukrainian army. http://tass.ru/en/politics/828038 Moscow regrets some facts submitted by Russia when investigating MH17 crash not considered Russian Politics & Diplomacy October 12, 13:46 UTC+3 On October 13, the Dutch Safety Board will make public its final report, summing up results of 15-month investigation work 20151015 http://thesaker.is/mh17-field-experiment-done-by-almaz-antey/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG0Bi_wf7JM MH17 Crash - Field Experiment by Almaz-Antey | Eng Subs Blowing up plane cockpits on a test range, with real BUK missiles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W3Ai0nUxKE MH17: No one deserves to die that way (RT Documentary, Published on Oct 10, 2015) incl video of holes in pilot's seats, and many more fragments with shrapnel holes.