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Re: The Port Arthur Massacre

Postby mr_anderson » Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:37 pm

I just saw a Ch 9 advertisement for "You saved my life".

First episode.

Some woman comes face to face with the "killer" and saves a group of people.
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Re: The Port Arthur Massacre

Postby Poit » Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:17 am

I was just at Port Arthur 2 days ago. The locals there did NOT want to talk about this topic, I don't blame them. I did manage to ask the local Cafe owner what he thought about it - Do you beleive the media? or Do you think something else happened? He kind of dodged the question and advised me not to mention it to anyone else. A little disapointed, but I guess thats expected.

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Re: The Port Arthur Massacre

Postby flare » Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:31 pm

Article that came out today about Martin Bryant in The Age (27/4/2009)

A dangerous mind: what turned Martin Bryant into a mass murderer?


http://www.theage.com.au/national/a-dan ... -ajo6.html
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Re: The Port Arthur Massacre

Postby Chantell » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:04 pm

I know a lot of people who were there. They all saw it happen, and never disagreed with the perpetrator. But, always open-minded.
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Re: The Port Arthur Massacre

Postby Poit » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:40 pm

Chantell wrote:I know a lot of people who were there. They all saw it happen, and never disagreed with the perpetrator. But, always open-minded.

So what are u saying? you believe the offical story or not?
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Re: The Port Arthur Massacre

Postby idontbelieve » Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:36 am

Re the reason for it being the gun buy back, my brother-in-law and his gun nut friends (who live in Tasmania) sold the government guns they didn't want or use any more. They were happy to take the cash. Believe me, they are still armed.

One aspect of Martin Bryants case doesn't seem to receive any attention - the seizure of his assets by the Government, allegedly to compensate victims. If I recall correctly, this was done by special act of parliament.

If it can be done to him, can it be done to any one else? As the crimes he was convicted of didn't have anything to do with money, why can he be stripped of his material assets?

No one at the time seemed to think this mattered. He was scum, why should he have anything etc. There was resentment over the perception that he was quite wealthy, having been 'adopted' by a tattersalls heir (or so the story goes) and having received an income from tattersalls after she died.

Maybe this aspect is significant. I don't see how government has the right to take assets. And even if it was used to compensate victims, I think there is something seriously wrong with the idea that money is compensation for death. One does not, cannot, equal the other.
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Re: The Port Arthur Massacre

Postby chunky moose » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:30 am

Just found this site: http://judicial-inc.biz/Viialls_Ben_Menashe.htm

It suggests that Joe Vialls was really Ari Ben-Menashe, who worked for the Israeli intelligence services.

Vialls was an investigative reporter that specialized in Israeli 'Black Ops'. If there was an major incident, and other sources started questioning Israeli involvement, Vialls soon appeared as 'Johnny on the spot', ready to lend his expertise.

When he barged in on the Port Arthur Massacre investigation, others that were investigating became suspicious, and referred to him as a disinformation agent. They claim that Vialls just seemed to fog up any creditable theories, and made everyone look like conspiracy nuts.


I think I remember Andrew MacGregor saying something along the lines of him not completely believing Joe Vialls account of Port Arthur on one of his videos. Anyhow, worth having a look.

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Re: The Port Arthur Massacre

Postby Tanya » Fri May 01, 2009 1:32 pm

i worked for a sales agency, that was based in tasie.
i had 2 go there a couple of times.
the locals don't talk about it full stop.
the ones that have and had eye-witness accounts, that
differed to the one's we force fed, are surprise, surprise dead!
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Re: The Port Arthur Massacre

Postby stoptheshearing » Sat May 02, 2009 12:03 am

Bryant went to a local gun dealer days before the event with one of his rifles , pointing the gun towards the dealer (obviously not knowing anything about gun safety) and enquired why the magazine didnt fit . It turned out he had the wrong bullets for the wrong magazine and the mag was for a different gun? Told to me by a gun dealer in sa a couple of years ago , at the time I thought he was talking crap , but like most on this site I have recently come to a better UNDERSTANDING .
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Re: The Port Arthur Massacre

Postby mr_anderson » Sun May 03, 2009 3:21 am

stoptheshearing wrote:Bryant went to a local gun dealer days before the event with one of his rifles , pointing the gun towards the dealer (obviously not knowing anything about gun safety) and enquired why the magazine didnt fit . It turned out he had the wrong bullets for the wrong magazine and the mag was for a different gun? Told to me by a gun dealer in sa a couple of years ago , at the time I thought he was talking crap , but like most on this site I have recently come to a better UNDERSTANDING .
Bryant was a literal retard..IQ of 60 or 66?
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Re: The Port Arthur Massacre

Postby change » Sun May 03, 2009 12:01 pm

stoptheshearing wrote:Bryant went to a local gun dealer days before the event with one of his rifles , pointing the gun towards the dealer (obviously not knowing anything about gun safety) and enquired why the magazine didnt fit . It turned out he had the wrong bullets for the wrong magazine and the mag was for a different gun? Told to me by a gun dealer in sa a couple of years ago , at the time I thought he was talking crap , but like most on this site I have recently come to a better UNDERSTANDING .


Sounds like Bryant was an expert sharp shooter...bad to the bone lol :lol:
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Re: The Port Arthur Massacre

Postby Crypticlub » Mon May 04, 2009 12:55 pm

Check out these vids on Youtube mentioned earlier. There is a user called Hoodlem187 who is persistent in making out that these vids are "conspiracy" and mocks anyone who thinks otherwise. Look at all the comments by him in these vids, its so obvious they are controlling the comments to make out this is all bullshit.

It also seems if you try to give a comment a thumbs up or thumbs down, go away from the vid then back to it, it's the same as before, they are controlling the comments! Also the comments he dislikes seem to get so many thumbs down that the comments disappear after -6 or -7 thumbs down. Something very suss here...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdYxtultxZU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJeQ3PgBe4U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCmLCQdiOXs
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Re: The Port Arthur Massacre

Postby geo1951 » Sun May 31, 2009 10:07 am

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Re: The Port Arthur Massacre

Postby IfnotNow When » Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:58 am

Tried out the thumbs up/down thing on his comments...They are definately controlling the comments.
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Re: The Port Arthur Massacre

Postby Tanya » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:44 pm

Just came back from Tasie.
Beautiful and freeeeezing.
Whilst there I asked the question a few times.
Astonished at response!
At a pub one night, approached a group (5) local people.
My question; Do you guys really believe Martin Bryant did what they say?
The answer; Nobody here, believes he did what he's in jail for!
Mate I hugged them all. They all know, they just don't talk about it.
I must say, the people there are the friendliest people on earth.
Everybody gives you the time of day, super friendly, super nice, can't do enough for you.
There was one group I met, who had never heard anything alternative, I told them to google Pt Arthur Conspiracy. Hours later when they were leaving the venue we were all at, they found me, to tell me, they would definately google it!
You just need to be careful who you talk to.
Most certainly wouldn't ask the local tuck shop owner etc.
They know....
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