Scientists cure cancer, but no one takes notice
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Canadian researchers find a simple cure for cancer, but major pharmaceutical companies are not interested.
Researchers at the University of Alberta, in Edmonton, Canada have cured cancer last week, yet there is a little ripple in the news or in TV. It is a simple technique using very basic drug. The method employs dichloroacetate, which is currently used to treat metabolic disorders. So, there is no concern of side effects or about their long term effects.
This drug doesn’t require a patent, so anyone can employ it widely and cheaply compared to the costly cancer drugs produced by major pharmaceutical companies. Canadian scientists tested this dichloroacetate (DCA) on human’s cells; it killed lung, breast and brain cancer cells and left the healthy cells alone. It was tested on Rats inflicted with severe tumors; their cells shrank when they were fed with water supplemented with DCA. The drug is widely available and the technique is easy to use, why the major drug companies are not involved? Or the Media interested in this find? In human bodies there is a natural cancer fighting human cell, the mitochondria, but they need to be triggered to be effective. Scientists used to think that these mitochondria cells were damaged and thus ineffective against cancer. So they used to focus on glycolysis, which is less effective in curing cancer and more wasteful. The drug manufacturers focused on this glycolysis method to fight cancer. This DCA on the other hand doesn’t rely on glycolysis instead on mitochondria; it triggers the mitochondria which in turn fights the cancer cells. The side effect of this is it also reactivates a process called apoptosis. You see, mitochondria contain an all-too-important self-destruct button that can't be pressed in cancer cells. Without it, tumors grow larger as cells refuse to be extinguished. Fully functioning mitochondria, thanks to DCA, can once again die. With glycolysis turned off, the body produces less lactic acid, so the bad tissue around cancer cells doesn't break down and seed new tumors. Pharmaceutical companies are not investing in this research because DCA method cannot be patented, without a patent they can’t make money, like they are doing now with their AIDS Patent. Since the pharmaceutical companies won’t develop this, the article says other independent laboratories should start producing this drug and do more research to confirm all the above findings and produce drugs. All the groundwork can be done in collaboration with the Universities, who will be glad to assist in such research and can develop an effective drug for curing cancer. You can access the original research for this cancer here. This article wants to raise awareness for this study, hope some independent companies and small startup will pick up this idea and produce these drugs, because the big companies won’t touch it for a long time.Sorry to hear about your family members, Justjanice. I hope the school and some drug companies not the major ones, will participate and confirm it and start producing it. Cancer affects every family, my aunt died recently because of sudden cancer. It needs a radical approach, I hope they will find a cure for this and AIDS. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Page & Brin should sponsor such studies and find out mor about this DCA.
This is why national healthcare is important, its the only way to protect the people from the special interests of the manufacturers. My husband has been through seven different treatments thus far to no avail. It's frustrating beyond measure.
It is sad many are blind, they don't see how hard it is for lower and middle classes. They are fleecing America and no one cares.
Could someone please provide us with a link to the research journal which has studied this drug and its effect on cancer because i would love to read further into it, as un-sourced this article is just another piece of internet jargon and cocka. A very intriguing principal, however and I truly believe that there are perfect drugs out there that as economics dictate our world will be left unused when they could change the world as we know it.
Wow, I really did not know about this.
Again, I shared this on my Face-Book page.
Thanks so much for sharing this important information.
Take Care,
N.E.
Agreed with Steve. It all sounds too good to be true, and might not be, but without reference to a legitimate scientific journal this is just more internet mumbo-jumbo to attract folks to whatever blog this is. This article even seems poorly written, further leading me to believe it's total BS. Anyone have a link to the real story here? or does it not exist?
Try this site. Looks promising...
Um, glycolysis requires oxygen, and mitochondria use glycolysis to make ATP which is the "energy" currency of the cell. I am not sure whether this article is a joke or not, but I assure you as a cancer researcher, we would be very interested if this made any sense or had a basis in science. As it stands this is laughable...I think it was meant as a joke.
This article has some good info but is just poor journalism. Pharmaceutical companies are not investing in it because it is a generic drug that is already being produced. If water cured cancer, you wouldn't ask drug company to invest in water. That doesn't make them evil. That won't stop doctors and hospitals from using the drug. Also, a little research reveals that the drug is still in trials, the media is paying attention to it if you know where to look, it takes three months to get the drug up to blood levels where it will stop the growth of cancer, and even then it's not a magic bullet cure. It stops the growth of tumors, but it doesn't target and kill them. This drug will need to be used in combination with other treatments. Some side effects, such as nerve malfunction, have been found, and the drug is still being tested for other side effects.
Dr Davis, the link to wikipedia that you posted suggests you know not of what you talk.
Wiki says that while there are oxygen atoms in the compounds involved, such as glucose, these are there from the get-go and are not required to be added through a chemical process as part of the steps required for releasing the energy. Oxygen _may_ be used to convert the NADH back again, but according to wiki this is not necessary, such as when in anaerobic situations like fermentation.
Quote:
Lactic acid fermentation and ethanol fermentation can occur in the absence of oxygen. This anaerobic fermentation allows many single-cell organisms to use glycolysis as their only energy source.
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for those unwilling to click (twice) or google their way to the original document that the article above cites, then here is a direct link:
Oh dear. Okay, I don't know what I'm talking about. That's what a doctorate in biology, research experience and teaching biology at the college level gets one. Fremen, I wish you the best in your educational endeavors. Thanks for the insults, and believe whatever fiction you like.
Oh dear. Okay, I don't know what I'm talking about. That's what a doctorate in biology, research experience and teaching biology at the college level gets one. Fremen, I wish you the best in your educational endeavors. Thanks for the insults, and believe whatever fiction you like.
Fermentation occurs outside the mitochondria in general. ATP synthesis that occurs INSIDE the mitochondria which goes beyond the crebs or citric acid cycle does indeed require ATP. The major ATP synthesis in the body occurs inside mitochondria and uses oxygen. Read the article again, re-read what this blog post claims, make a chart, and you will see that the information reported is either backwards or non-sense.
Good luck to you, and I do wish more people would take basic biology so they might critically evaluate items reported on medicine in the media.
After a quick view of the article, link listed above, I don't see a similar explanation of mitochondria and glycolysis as to what is posted on this blog....
After a quick view of the article, link listed above, I don't see a similar explanation of mitochondria and glycolysis as to what is posted on this blog....
Gotta love being able to be a doctor online! Wooo! I'm a doctor!
Okay.. "Dr." Davis,
Having all those credentials in biology yet you spelled KREBS incorrectly? I'm in third year biology and let me tell you.. I have spent the last 5 (including 2 years of highschool) years doing the goddamnned Krebs cycle over and over.
How can someone in your position spell it wrong? It should be cemented into you by now.
Oh.. and no. Glycolysis does NOT need oxygen. Sorry "Dr."
So easy to wave imaginary virtual diplomas around to try and prove a point. Ah Internet, never change.
it wont cause the cancer cells to die. but it should if im reading this correctly cause them to live a normal cells life and die at the same rate as a normal cell. it should also prevent them from growing during this time. if i am wrong could someone with more experience explain what im misunderstanding.
Quote: "In human bodies there is a natural cancer fighting human cell, the mitochondria, but they need to be triggered to be effective."
Well, duh! Mitochondria is the source of all the Jedi's strength! It surrounds him, it flows through him, it binds him to the universe!
Listen to me I'm an eight degree turquoise belt in Jedi Judo!
This will clearly work. Listen to me. I'm a doctor AND a lawyer.
You can't "cure cancer". It's not one disease with one course of action, it's a spectrum of disorders with infinite variables. Every cancer for every person is different, and to suggest that there's some magic bullet cure-all is preposterous and unfair to those who are suffering.
Perhaps you should consider going to school and educating yourself instead of believing everything you read on the internet and instantly becoming self-help oncologists.
Furthermore, where's the link to the peer reviewed article?
Listen up knuckleheads, let me break it down for you. this article is like 4 years old. there's already site(s) posting links to research and products related to DCA.
please trust me i'm a doctor, a lawyer, and user of the famous interweb site "Google." so just enter "DCA" in your google box and see what comes up.
-dueces
I've never read so much horseshit in my life.
Did some digging and found the 2007 article:
http://tansleyaes.com/articles/DCA_cancer_treatmen
I find it interesting that a 4 year old report has gained literally zero traction in the medical community.
Don't listen to deuces. He got his doctorate at a party school and he's never passed a bar (the exam or any alcohol-serving venue.) Google is in bed with the Canadian medical conspiracy, attempting to inject socialism drugs into our water. Use the much fairer Bing search, and I think you'll discover that DCA is no more real than leprechauns or potato bugs.
Last post. Straight from the ACA website: "But as of late 2009, no studies in humans have yet shown that DCA can help treat cancer. Available evidence does not support the use of DCA for cancer treatment at this time."
Not to mention: "The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has listed dichloroacetic acid as "likely" to be a cancer-causing agent in humans."
Quote Hugbees: "I find it interesting that a 4 year old report has gained literally zero traction in the medical community."
When the insurrance company allows the doctor to bill for it and the doctor needs a new set of matching golf clubs for his yacht then we will all be treated with this new proceedure regardless of our symptoms.
They say a woman decides in three minutes of meeting you if she is gonna sleep with you, well a doctor decides your course of treatment just as quickly after reading your insurrance benefits which of course he does before he examines you.
"Well, duh! Mitochondria is the source of all the Jedi's strength! It surrounds him, it flows through him, it binds him to the universe!
Listen to me I'm an eight degree turquoise belt in Jedi Judo!"
LOL OMG NO
MIDOCHLORIAN ARE NOT THE SAME AS MITOCHONDRIA
MITOCHONDRIA ARE LEGITIMATE PIECES OF CELLS.
Sorry kdgjdflkgfklg... my bad d;-(
Hugbee - i find it "interesting" that you consider clicking on the 4th result of a search as "digging", i wonder how you "research" buying a pair of shoes persay?
Dr. Fever - if you think this is a lot of horse sh!t then you haven't really even begun your journey yet sir. this is nothing in comparison to the voluminous expanse of hose dung available on the internet. fark.com for example has load upon load of fresh horse dung served up daily and they are passe by interweb standards. please sir, do your research before posting here.
Dr Davis, I did not mean to "insult" you, only to bring to attention the point that the wiki article you provided as evidence "seems" to contradict your statement of Oxygen being a requirement of glycolysis.
@VirtualEntropy You have a very sick world view of doctors, my friend. It's the same world view that's killing off children in the thousands due to entirely made-up stories (http://news.discovery.com/human/vaccine-autism-doc on how vaccination causes autism.
Trust me, I hope I'm wrong. But practicing medicine without doing the proper research was already addressed at the Nuremberg Trials, if I recall correctly.
We have a clinical trial procedure in place for a reason, and trust me, there will be plenty of people trying to profit off of DCA if and when the time comes.
Academic Douchiere Esq.
I hope you dont doubt my research or my many years spent drinking beer with that little green midget in the swamps of Dagoba with all them dawggone skeeters will have been a waste.
@Hugbees
DichloroAcetic Acid, a carcinogen... really?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dichloroacetic_acid#C
keep the knee jerks coming folks, i'm LMFAO ROFLing today. nothing better than a little ad-hoc peer review.
Glycolysis does not require O2, and almost every organism, whether aerobic or anaerobic, can perform glycolysis.
This article clearly has no understanding of cellular respiration, but that's fine, the author doesn't claim to be a doctor.
What the article means to say, is that the cells in question do not receive oxygen from the blood supply, so they cannot use the mitochondrial Electron Transport Chain (ETC) to produce ATP (energy). In an anaerobic environment, cells undergo fermentation to produce the bare minimum amount of ATP. This fermentation produces lactic acid (which incidentally causes the "burn" in strenuous exercise).
I've spent the last 5 days studying for the MCAT. I can vomit this stuff up in my sleep.
very old story, was called the Warburg effect, named after the scientist who documented the ineffective way in which cancer cells generate energy. This does not provide a survival advantage for cancer cells in comparison to normal cells, but helps cancer cells grow under conditions of low oxygen tension. There is little interest to adapt DCA or a so-called ketogenic diet for cancer treatment due to the unpromising prospects for success identified in translational research
kdgjdflkgfklg
I think my confusion is because Yoda had a strange accent and spoke with a very confusing backwards sentence structure not to mention all the beer we drank before and after I crashed my x-wing fighter into that swamp.
Remember, friends don't let friends fly x-wing fighters drunk!
I find it hilarious that you all are trading insults over an article that is 4 years old...
A problem with the article; mitochondria aren't cells. They're organelles, meaning they're found within cells, I.E. cancer cells.
If you look at the original paper, you would find that it has been cited in other publications 229 times since 2007. HARDLY 'not being noticed' from a scientific perspective. And clinical trials from benchtop to patients will take YEARS and lots of funding.
Yeah, this looks like bullshit.
Clearly a joke... Mitochondria are organelles, not cells, and cancerous tumors can often stimulate blood vessels to grow towards them so they can carry out cellular respiration in full instead of just glycolysis.
I'm not saying this link is 100% reputable. But looking at the citations and checking citations, perhaps it might hold some water.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi68.html
Good read to follow up for those who are interested anyway.
Put a load of Americans in one place on the internet and it resembles a primary school. Fail
I think that you'll find that you're all in fact wrong. Cancerous cells replicate in a process called mitosis. The mitochondria in all cells have a nucleic starch chain and of course that would lead to a fail in the mitochondrial electron pair. That leads me on, quite nicely, to the way that; in recent studies, mitochondria react when lithium carbohydrase is introduced. The start to vibrate and heat up very quickly. This causes a chain reaction that proves that you have wasted about 30 seconds of your time reading this comment.
listen up people, no _one_ has said anything to contradict the fact that this sh!t works! end of story now just buy my DCA already!
http://www.pharma-dca.com/usa/index.html
for all of you who think that docs make their money by looking at your insurance coverage before hand let me assure you that you couldn't be more wrong.
we already have software that does insurance coding for our procedures and maximizes our profits. we don't care about that, the real money is in writing scrips! there's also something in selling EHRs but you need a lot of em. i think we can send big pharma a message and buy some DCA right now!˜
FDA approval.. who needs it? i mean look at this controversy.
How did this 4 year old article become so popular? We need to get a life.
I like shooting clay pigeons on my farm. Especially ones that I have implanted with cancerous cells. I can fight cancer in my own way. Mwahahaha... I've wasted my life.
Someone with cancer just try the bloody thing and get this piece of crap over with.
I thought hemp could cure all, or mostly all 'bad things' that occur in the body. But the reason it's not turned into the formate in which it is able to be properly administered is because the drug company's can't patent the plant. Go easy on me folks, I'm just asking/educating myself. God bless
Dr Davis It seems it took you about 112 minutes to reply, where you Googling your info? And In internet world all your dreams come true. I tell everyone that I am a Russian Spy! I am an assassin too. But on saturdays I like to pretend to be a monarch from Germany.
I can't believe this. I really can't. There's no way that a cure could exist and no company would at least sell a generic brand for it. celebrities / famous people would not die of it. I can't believe this. if this were true, there would be people using it right now.
A few relevant papers:
http://www.mendeley.com/research/dichloroacetate-d
The prime cause of Cancer was discovered back in the 1930's by Otto Warburg.
He received the Nobel prize ( http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laurea ) for his work.
He was one of the foremost biochemists in the world. Here is hoping many of you not only take notice, but put his discoveries to work.
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I think what we all need to focus on is if this causes Lupus or not.
In my research I have determined cancer doesn't exist, and that like Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis you can just wish it better.
I work for a pharmaceutical company who would never make medicine for monetary gain! We only charge a flat £1 fee per pack of pills, with a quite sensible P&P of £3782 - go see our store on ebay!
but no in all seriousness, someone somewhere has a cure for cancer, just like the replacement fuel for oil has been developed, but until it makes fiscal sense to each party involved, you will never see either. Sad but true fact guys.
Why, oh why should we destroy our cancerous cell brothers. We all have cells, each and every one of us. I have a dream, that every little cell can live in peace.
Umm....you comment people are weird. Also, the DCA Research website looks to be making at least some sort of progress; but the pharma-dca.com URL looks like some scammish herbal-supplement site.
Meow meow meow, meow meow!
I ain't getting on no cancer treatment plane fool!
An anagram of my name is Dr. Visad, am I a stereotype Asian doctor?
And then I wondered what it would be like if I was a cancerous cell...
[INSERT FUNNY SCENE]
It's definitely lupus.
I'm such a nerd..
I have the treatment!
You can have it for......
ONE MILLION DOLLARS!
Guys, I don't really know if this is real or fake, but stop flaming...
On wikipedia it says it causes liver cancer in mice and it doesn't seem too conclusive that it would cure other cancers very well.
aw sh1t n1gga
This is @ kris. U said that celebs/rich folks would be getting cured. What about magic johnson? Didn't he have some Disease?
I'mma write a song about this... gimme a beat, yo
Actually this is not a joke. I had cancer, my oncologist at Baylor hospital knew about DCA. It does cause apoptosis to occur because once the mitochondria is turn back on (awoke from a dormant state or WTF ever is the correct terminology)the cells realize they are cancerous and die.
This problem is addressed by regulating the amount of DCA given so your body is not flooded suddenly with too many dead cells (a slow die off, relatively). He declined to use it because "the AMA would jerk my license" and he stated "big Pharma would not pursue it because there is no money in it" but he was very interested in it. He also worked with non-MD nutritionists for vitamin support and diet. Diet is huge - fresh fruits and vegetables; chicken and fish - no industrial food with tons of salt, GMO and chemicals. I lost 30 pounds in three weeks and then I plateaued and began to get my energy back, appetite and weight (weight very slowly).
I went to Canada to get it. Stage 4 cancer to none in months. I then whet to the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center in Seattle for confirmation - the head of the cancer department reviewed my records, said it was all "snake oil" but then asked why I came to him as all indications, CAT scans and x-rays show nothing; because I wanted to hear an unrelated third party tell me I was cured, and I was not in remission, but cured, gone.
Two years later and I am still completely cured.
Cancer treatment is an industry. Just like the Banksters, Mons*nto, AMA etc.want to make money - if you found a simple way to fix it, there'd be no profit.
It doesn't work on all types of cancer - I had large cell B diffuse non-Hodkins lymphoma. It can cause peripheral nueropathy so can't be used if the person had any chemo treatments (most people only go experimental as a last resort - I didn't) If I had listened to all the doctors that anted to poison, irradiate, cut and harvest and salvage (bone marrow extraction then kill the immune system and put it back) - I WOULD BE DEAD.
I am purely a doctor of the best carbonated beverages. I have no interest in this article.
HEEEEEEEEEEELP!!!!!!!
I'M STUCK IN A BATHROOM WITH MY LEG IN A CHAIN AND A BLUNT SAW!!
WHY IS THERE A DEAD MAN IN THE ROOM???
THE SAW WON'T CUT THROUGH CHAINS!! I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SAW OFF MY FOOT!!
I HAVE THE CANCER CURE WRITTEN ON MY FOOT!!
WHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!?!
@Dr Pepper
I am a fictional soft drink that is featured on American Dad......I think you are my father
I'd get Roes to try it if I could
Roes loved drugs...
What if we fused the cells together, back to front.
I can explain all this, but the Daleks have just started an invasion in the Omega System which could threaten all life on Earth! Why are we talking about such trivial matters??
Allons-y!
I am a doctor of medicine, philosophy and quod erat, and you know this is true because I claimed it.
Let me explain to you how the cells in humans work. We each have little factories, called factonelles inside our cells. These produce the right kind of energy (remember, there is negative energy, good energy, green energy and high-pitched energy) depending on what the computer (we call these parts of your cells computanelles) tells them to make. The computanelles receive these instructions from a very primitive neural networking solution called deliverybonelles. These carry pieces of paper and a whistle and knock on your door whilst you're asleep and shout "TELEGRAM!" at the top of their voice. They receive their instructions from our evil overlords in congress who make all of our cellular decisions for us.
Actually this is not a joke. I had cancer, my oncologist at Baylor hospital knew about DCA. It does cause apoptosis to occur because once the mitochondria is turn back on (awoke from a dormant state or WTF ever is the correct terminology)the cells realize they are cancerous and die.
This problem is addressed by regulating the amount of DCA given so your body is not flooded suddenly with too many dead cells (a slow die off, relatively). He declined to use it because "the AMA would jerk my license" and he stated "big Pharma would not pursue it because there is no money in it" but he was very interested in it. He also worked with non-MD nutritionists for vitamin support and diet. Diet is huge - fresh fruits and vegetables; chicken and fish - no industrial food with tons of salt, GMO and chemicals. I lost 30 pounds in three months and then I plateaued and began to get my energy back, appetite and weight (weight very slowly).
I went to Canada to get it. Stage 4 cancer to none in months. I then whet to the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center in Seattle for confirmation - the head of the cancer department reviewed my records, said it was all "snake oil" but then asked why I came to him as all indications, CAT scans and x-rays show nothing; because I wanted to hear an unrelated third party tell me I was cured, and I was not in remission, but cured, gone.
Two years later and I am still completely cured.
Cancer treatment is an industry. Just like the Banksters, Mons*nto, AMA etc.want to make money - if you found a simple way to fix it, there'd be no profit.
It doesn't work on all types of cancer - I had large cell B diffuse non-Hodkins lymphoma. It can cause peripheral nueropathy so can't be used if the person had any chemo treatments (most people only go experimental as a last resort - I didn't) If I had listened to all the doctors that anted to poison, irradiate, cut and harvest and salvage (bone marrow extraction then kill the immune system and put it back) - I WOULD BE DEAD.
LOL @ the terminology and the middle school grasp of biology used in this article
you people love to eat shit up
Ze healing leaves little time for ze hurting...
We should be focusing on how to CAUSE cancer. Perhaps a cancer beam, or laser.
@ Jedski
Nope. The idea that marijuana is a magical cure all drug is a very frustrating delusion that's gaining a lot of force. Don't believe it. It's not without it's medical benefits, but saying you think hemp can cure most of the "bad things" that occur in the body is ludicrous.
A lot of people seem to want to believe that pot is not illegal do some huge industrial conspiracy. It's not. Marijuana is illegal Federally and prescription drugs are regulated Federally. That's why when you get Medical Marijuana in California you get a recommendation and a card and not a normal prescription.
Also, scientists have and are creating exogenous cannabinoid ligands, which basically means they're making drugs that bind to the same active zones that THC does. However, they can make a variety of cannabinoid ligands that have high affinity for specific receptors and can give the specific treatment that you can treat with MJ, and more effectively with less side effects. Most people who promotwe marijuana aren't aware of this though, because they really aren't interested in medical treatments in the first place. They're interested in the side effects. Smoke pot is crap medicinally and is scientifically totally obsolete. Stoners don't want you to know that though.
I found the journal articles off which these reports are based. You can read them for yourselves on Pubmed. I was breaking this down for a friend of mine: Essentially, this drug called DCA (dichloroacetate, the one you've heard about) messes with these organelles inside all cells that is involved with cellular respiration
now, cells can use a lot of different ways to make energy, but SOME cancer cells change in that they become reliant on one method the method they become reliant upon is the one that DCA inhibits but it's ineffective in treating cancers that don't rely on that one mechanism.
If you'd like to read the journal articles themselves, search for "Sodium dichloroacetate selectively targets cells with defects in the mitochondrial ETC" in the International Journal of Cancer, Vol 127, published in Dec 2010.
or:
"Dichloroacetate (DCA) inhibits neuroblastoma growth by specifically acting against malignant undifferentiated cells." also published in the International Journal of Cancer this month.
I'm so happy for u David. God bless!
[citation needed]
GOD, YOU GUYS. Let's get on with our lives already JEEZ
Through thorough research, we have already known the cure for cancer for more than 500 years.
If you would all just pray to GOD and ask his son Jesus for salvation, you will be touched by his healing hand.
Trust me. I'm a Dr.
Today happens to be the 13th anniversary of the loss of my Gran to Pancreatic cancer. Two of my other grandparents died due to cancer and at 21 I already know far too many affected and killed by this disease to not be enraged by this article and the greed displayed by medical companies! It's painful to think how many people are going to suffer (with cancer and losing someone to it) because there is "no money to be made" from a cure!! A legit cure and NO ONE is interested?? DISGUSTING and heartbreaking.
Im a certified dentist
Listen to what I say I am not only a doctor but the son of god and I can tell you all here and now cancer was a joke by my dad,
he thought it was really funny i told him off when I found out and thats why I gave the lad team involved in these trials the nice simple fix.
dont worry too much about those that died of cancer during my dads little joke though, they are all having a ball up here with us.
peace out...btw dec 2012 is a lie its actually going down on febuary 2014
Wtf? Midi-chlorians live inside the cells of Jedi. Get your space history right!
Mr. Pibb isn't a fictional beverage...
@Hugbees: "Trust me, I hope I'm wrong. But practicing medicine without doing the proper research was already addressed at the Nuremberg Trials, if I recall correctly."
So was water boarding... and?
Yeah sorry about that
Read the Wikipedia article about it -- it's more complicated than this article makes out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dichloroacetic_acid#P
And you probably CAN patent it for cancer applications, so it's unlikely that's the stumbling block.
"Dr. Jesus Son of God", I don't appreciate your comment. God is holy and cancer is no joke.
no comment
You know you can fix that cancerous chameleon circuit if you just try hotwiring the fragment links and superceding the binary binary binary binary binary binary binary binary binary binary binary binary binary binary binary
Not meaning to add fuel to the fire, but I noticed this and it concerned me about the whole article. The Mitochondrion is not a cell. Mitochondria (plural) are organelles found within human cells. If the author truly meant to say, "mitochondria cells" perhaps the reference is to all animal cells (which contain mitochondria). ???
@ WOW I forgive you
We should farm these bad boys and put them in energy drink to give us nice muskels
@ wow
I allready said sorry and come on I get bored every now and then.
please dont question my methods you have no idea of the greater picture. and dont be so hard on my boy he's a good lad
@ mhairi.....
It's what happens when folks don't have God in there hearts. I'm truly sorry for ur pain. But, there's great news! God, is a/the God that can fix ur
Cancers are basically overactive cells which replicate too . The only cure we need is to be extremely lazy and stop having so many offspring. Set an example people.
Guys, Hello. I just want to draw your attention to something quickly.
@david
Thanks for bringing to light your experience.
And you bring up a very valid point about prevention as well... which the docs are generally not versed on at all.
As they say... an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure (or thereabouts).
The focus should be on prevention, but it's not... which is why I am always on about the large orgs (Cancer Society, etc.) because their focus is (also) on making money, paying the bills, but not prevention.
Jeez... it's all right in front of us.
If something seems to be too good to be true, it probably is.
The article references is a very interesting overview of the past research on DCA- showing that it is a promising chemotherapeutic, but also an environmental pollutant (which may actually cause cancer: liver and kidney specifically). There is no treatment that is without risk. And indeed- DCA is not FDA approved, so if a Pharmaceutical Company was successful in getting it approved, it would have exclusive licensing on the sale for several years- thus big Pharma does indeed have an incentive to research this, but it takes time and quite a bit of money. On the other hand, it would certainly be beneficial to the internet purveyors of DCA to make it look like a wunder-drug (yes- spelled with a u intentionally), so that they can sell more DCA. This is not approved as a pharmaceutical, so be careful what you get, since you don't actually know what other chemicals may be with it.
i can't believe i just sat here for 10min reading these comments. all i can say is, pure entertainment at work. some of you are rlly funny haha...
I have been involved in this research, and can agree that the description above is a bit misleading, but not that far from the truth.
Good enough for government work, or so I am told.
I wouldn't label DCA as a cure all... but it is effective in clinical trials.
It's amazing how this has suddenly burst into popularity these last couple of days, when the report came out 3 YEARS AGO!! I want to know how the rials have gone??
If there was some miracle cure then it would be in production by now, governments spend millions on cancer so implying they wouldn't leap to invest in this if it was actually truth is just wrong.
Sorry- not sure if that came through:
Here is the link:
mitochondria are not cells
Sorry this link should work for everyone:
I am a doctor, and I can assure you that medicine is science fact.
"the cells realize they are cancerous and die."
Isn't there an easier way to communicate with cells than DCA? Can't we just use tiny little loudspeakers to announce to them?
I think it's funny in a way that the comments have gotten SO far off topic. Is anybody on this comment thread even discussing the original article anymore? LoL.
If anybody is interested in looking at this more, your library probably has a subscription to EBSCOhost which has tons of scholar-level journals which include research, studies, clinical evaluations, etc.
I did a search for DCA Cancer and it returned some newer articles than the one from 2007 that is discussed here.
We did it guys! We cured cancer!
I have some help for cancer victims. NOT a cure but if they give you only six months to live just get married. You wont live any longer but it will feel like an eternity.
I'm sorry, but I'm calling bullshit. The link to the "original article" doesn't take you to the article. There is no mention of the author's name or even the name of the article in which this "cure" was found anywhere in this report. Just because an agent kills cancer "in human cells" doesn't mean that giving humans this medication will cure their cancer.
Does this work on foot cancer too?
AssholePatrol wrote:
"Smoke pot is crap medicinally and is scientifically totally obsolete. Stoners don't want you to know that though."
Because of their commercial interest, I suppose.
Nice conspiracy theory - doesn't even make sense.
Not even mentioning that there are lots of other ways of ingesting THC than smoking it, vastly more effective ways such as vaporising or hemp oil. Just pointing this out.
Hey, the "sceptics" here tell just-so stories as well. Teaching dogma ex cathedra - at least that's how it comes across.Don't be surprised if people don't believe you.
Read the primary research and decide for yourself. This is what actual scientists do. Due to the highly specialized nature of biomedical research (another topic in itself), I highly doubt anyone commenting is actually well informed enough to say anything of substance on this topic. This includes MDs and various other biomedical field PhDs such as myself (neuroscience). A good scientist knows when they don't know shit, and can only interpret the observations and evidence they have gathered, or are presented with, within certain boundaries of statistical certainty (a nuance that non-scientists and scientists alike seem to struggle with). Such statistical constraints and interpretations change over time to accommodate the only thing that is real... reproducible observable data.
Anyway, links to some relevant research (I know a couple are reposts from Benjamin A'Lee above)...
These took me about 30 seconds to find on PubMed:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Michelakis_etal2010
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Michelakis_etal2008
Yeah I Pubmed searched this guy and there is tangible research there. The journals are legit. I don't quite understand how restoring mitochondria activity will actually reverse the hypermethylation the tumor suppressor genes that control apoptosis.... What do I know I guess, I'm only a breast cancer researcher, but this is fantastic stuff. Is using DCA for therapeutic purposes efficient in human subjects yet?
I do agree about research being very largely a money making machine whether it be Academia, companies that provide the labs with equipment(VWR, Sigma, etc.), and pharmaceutical companies. If there is a simple answer they want to avoid it. I'm sure they have some lobbying influence on the National Institute of Health which gives out grants specifically to what THEY want research to be done on.
I cured cancer via time travel. Geronimo!
Quote: Dr. Doctor, Ph.D "I am a doctor, and I can assure you that medicine is science fact."
Tell that to the lawyer I hired to settle my case against 'big pharm' after my anti-anxiety meds caused anal leakage and explosive diarea thereby negating any positive effects of the medication. Give him a couple of hours to finish digesting the full term aborted fetish I threw him just a few moments ago. (I can still see the lump working its way down his body).
Mitochondira aren't cells.
LOL TUMBLR
You're all incorrect. We shouldn't be focusing on curing cancer, instead we should stop the funding for cancer research and fund to prove string theory.
Ahh! This is absolutely astounding! I want to do all I can to help! :D
SHELDON GET OFF THE BOARDS!
What a bunch a nonsense. How does this, for example, fix the translocation between genes FUS and DDIT3 which causes MLS? Killing tumours is not and will never be the same as curing cancer. Never.
That's why no one cares about this.
LOL HI GUISE
I love how some people, including a "doctor", are quoting wikipedia. Don't any of you know it is not professionally accepted to cite Wiki once you're in, oh, I would say sixth grade?
Oh yeah, by the way, you should trust me because while I am not a doctor, I am a seventeen year old girl and they are about the same thing on the internet.
You can communicate via IAD or BWI, but neither is more convenient than DCA.
Hey guys, did you hear I'm going to be in people?
My research tells me this may be an airball
Since when were mitochondria cells?
Dr Matfield wrote:
"If there was some miracle cure then it would be in production by now, governments spend millions on cancer so implying they wouldn't leap to invest in this if it was actually truth is just wrong."
But why would anyone want to invest in anything when there's no money in it? That's the rub.
Thinking further: What IF there was a common plant out there that grows everywhere like weed and that everyone could produce a panacea drug out of with a simple method in their own kitchen? Don't you think the industry REALLY wouldn't like that and would want to keep the news low-profile?
I'm not saying there is - and of course this kind of logic is the stuff of conspiracy theories, but the reason those conspiracy theories die so hard is because reality does work like that sometimes, incredibly. Capitalism is - outside its bubble where it is indeed coherent - utterly irrational, crazy and schizophrenic, even. If a company could make billions short-term producing something that will kill the entire planet within a few years, or at least decades, they would do so unless stopped by governments. Capitalism has no inbuilt ethics, governments are there to ensure the companies don't run amok.
This is not relevant to my interests.
there is no such thing as mitochondria cells....mitochondria is an organelle that is in every single cell. Basically that whole paragraph on mitochondria and glycolysis is incorrect. And it has to do with the actual cell cycle, not glycolysis, which occurs IN MITOCHONDRIA! I read the wiki link and it even said that some patients got worse cancer from taking this drug. There aren't enough human experimental results to confirm any results. It is definitely a stepping stone on the path to cancer treatment, but it is no cure. And it only works on like 2 types of cancer.
However i do agree that drug companies are stupid, i use lots of home remedies which are cheaper and better for you, and if this is available to the public, like they say it is, then we don't need the pharmaceutical companies getting in on it, they will just raise the prices.
GENTLEMEN, BEHOLD! THE CURE FOR CANCER
CIAO! SONO XPLODERMAN90 E CURO I TUMORI.
DA SOLO.
Agree with a comment above. Mitochondria are NOT cells. They are organelles in cells that are responsible for cellular respiration.
They were believed to be simple bacteria back in the days that became organelles through endosymbiosis. Prokaryotes do not have mitochondria.
Maybe the person that read this article is not good in biology/medicine, but this is clearly wrong....
@Xploderman90
Non conosci l'operatore `amb', la tua opinione è invalida. (´_>`)
Cancer comes from my cabinet......
Gimme the news, I've got bad case of loving you....
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HIIIII everybody!
okay I'm waking up now. sheesh.
ma come?|
:O
Spoilers.
It's Lupus.
I know of books that declare special vitamins as cure for cancer. the vitamin I'm talking of is vitamin b17.
the site itself may rather be a joke, but it depicts what I mean exactly.
http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/
^ and this is the reason why it's kept secret.
It's not the article you should be picking apart. All it's trying to do is shed some light on research with some promise, although I will admit it doesn't exactly go about it in the right way, especially with the sensationalized title. However, if you read the research behind it, that's solid. They aren't claiming to have cured cancer, they just think they may have found a treatment that is less harmful than chemo.
Cancer cells are often our bodies own cells that have mutated, the purpose of this drug is to activate apoptosis (aka programmed cell death) which is a mechanism performed by mitochondria, which can not be performed during glycolysis.
@Stephanie
A girl? On the internet?! Now that gentlemen, is something that is impossible, unless there is internet in the kitchen.
Stefanie: The nice thing about Wikipedia are the footnotes: the sources at the bottom of every articles. Just go check those, or harvest them for cites. Wikipedia is a general encyclopedia, and those are inherently not citeworthy (except for trivial definitions and such), printed on paper or not. What they really do is providing summaries intended for laymen, and that makes them very useful nevertheless.
Won't someone please think of the animals!!??
over 20,000 cows are suffering with hoof cancer, does this get reported? No!
Good god man, this could change medicine as we know it.
and this is my Hyde side.
Good to see the morons going on about biochemistry that have no clue about any of this. Honestly people, get some remedial education before going on and on and on about any science. Fremen (or whatever your name is), you are a prime candidate. Stick to driving a bus or whatever you do with your arts degree.
It doesn't serve anybody when people guess at basic chemistry. No you won't learn this on Oprah either.
I do wish people would stop draging me into these illogical conversations, I am not a doctor.
People are mistaken when they refer to me as 'Dr'
Vulcans don't get cancer.
Allons-y, I'm gonna pop into the future really quick and see if people still have cancer!
Yup!
Chuck Norris doesn't get cancer.
Cancer gets Chuck Norris.
And how does that make you feel?
Sounds to go to be true.
Bleh I'm retarded, 'GOOD'.
hmmmmm you humans have no chance against the big cancer wopwapapa
Hey guys! It's Friday so there's a new update!
WHOS FROM HF
It is really nice to see that there is enough people commenting on this that actually care about the feelings of cancer patients or of those whom might loose loved ones to cancer. (sarcasm) I have a Grandmother who has cancer. To be honest I got excited when reading the article but then I continued to read the comments and saw that there was just a bunch of jokers commenting with little insight or seem like they don't know anyone who will or might die from cancer. That this is just one big joke, to me it seemed like a way to stop my Grandmas suffering. So in my opinion unless you understand the science or has or will loose someone to one of these many diseases you should keep your shenanigans to yourself. No one cares for your answers and your just wasting the time of those who actually care.
Just drop the pills on the cancer, that always get's rid of it!
My dear Hobbit, what the fuck you think? We are very serious. In this terms i can say that the war againist cancer isn't a research of antineoplastic drugs. The solution is quite different: we can't research the care by vulgar means like drugs and/or sedatives.
Do you know that when a patient recovers is due to placebo effect?
However, according to the report, this "may lead to an understatement of drug benefit: The monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fatty acids of these 'placebos,' and their antioxidant and anti-inflammatory effects, can reduce lipid levels and heart disease." Another example researchers reported in the study was a clinical trial of a new therapy for cancer patients suffering from anorexia. The placebo that was used included lactose. However, since cancer patients typically face a higher risk of lactose intolerance, the placebo pill might actually have caused unintended side effects that made the experimental drug look better in comparison.
Couple of things one must consider. If there was an indisputable natural cure for all cancers, we would never hear about it. So, although this may be promising, if it every turns out to be a cure then it will be discredited and/or ban from the US or impose sever penalties if used for cancer. Cancer is annually a multi-billion dollar industry with hundreds of millions toward research. No one benefiting from that is interested in stopping that flow of money and it all would stop. Once you realize the economics of cancer you find that it is not just big pharm or insurance companies, but also government. There is population issues, SSI, medicare/medicaid and healthcare facilities. With that said, a cure could be a matter of National Security. I digress. In short, the US economics is partially based on and requires that people strategically be undereducated; work for someone else for the most of their life; get sick periodically and die before or shortly after they start collecting social security. Heart disease and Cancer followed by the unofficial third leading cause of death medical errors offers an alternative to mandatory human euthanization. There is a much much bigger picture. If this article angers you, then you don't know the half of it.
I'll take the cancer, AND CURE IT!
@ Shocked
Please, don't be such a pretentious ass. You're not the only person to lose a loved one due to cancer and you certainly won't be the last. I have also lost relatives to cancer and yet was one of the "Jokers" posting above. You want to cure your grandmother's cancer? Then do some damn research. But don't expect to find all the answers on hub pages. By the way, some people did post helpful links. I suggest you actually look into them instead of complaining about everyone else.
TEHE, CAN'T CATCH ME!
Drug Companies are only interested in "BIG PROFITS," they certainly don't wan't an easy cure for anyone suffering from cancer. Thanks to the Canadian Scientists that dicovered this new drug. I'm sure even the souls of those that died of the dreaded disease lovingly thank each one of you. GOD BLESS.
60% of all statistics are made up 70% of the time
As both a doctor and a person with cancer, I will take the last line on this argument. The only way to cure cancer is to let in grow and think it is winning. And then let it take over your body. And then make the cancer cells your "regular" cells and just keep on keepin' on. Cancer cell people live to be 170 years old.
Americans are funny.
Don't worry guys, I went to the year 2018 and it's all pretty much straightened out by then..
Yo wassup y'all? Just thought i would chime in real quick here. The general vibe i'm gettin from this discussion is "ignorance" which is cool because that's what i celebrate. So i'm not trying to spoil the discussion here but what's the verdict? Amazing we got a breast cancer researcher here who hasn't heard of this stuff since 07 when this was blowin' up. I think we should take this to the next level like and blow it up on boing-boing or some shit. Just crazy how this article was dead 4 years ago and now it's just whack as hell.
DAMN IT, TUMBLR.
@shocked you cannot even spell 'lose' correctly, this is just a hub page. I'm not a cancer researcher, i doubt any of these people are...there's nothing wrong with being light hearted and not being so down on things. Sorry about your Grandmother.
ITT: we troll the shit out of cancer.
WTF MY NIGGAZORS!!!!!
Don't worry, It'll all be the same one the bomb drops anyway.
Gotta love the Internet. Guardian of truth and virtue. The only pure thing left in the world. The only thing it lacks is a way to make sarcasm more obvious.
Can it heal? Can it feel?
Is this a Devil's deal?
The strong appeal
of drugs of steel;
Can it be this cure is real?
Yo dawg, I heard you don't like cancer.. SO WE PUT DCA IN YOUR CANCER SO YOU CAN CANCER YOUR CANCER!
The "science" in this article is bogus. Mitochondria are not cells.
I hope the original article is considerably more accurate. When I spot such a glaring error, I stop reading, since it's obvious the author has no fricken idea what he's talking about.
WE KILLED OSAMA!!!
Dr Davis, I think that when it refers to glucolysis it means the anaerobic process, you know? that where you obtain 2 ATP's, and that process doesn't need oxygen. Fermentation. Is that an isnsult? I don't think so, a lot of boooks refers glucolysis as the "fermentation form", the aerobic form is often refers as Oxidative metabolism and that is not a mistake, maybe those who write the article thought it in the same way. You can know a lot, still, you can make mistakes, so don't make look yourselk as a petulant know it all, because is obvious that is not that way.
It's elementary, really.
this is messed up, i lost my grandmother march 1st of this year to small cell lung cancer, all ive been wanting to see is a cure, once they got it, the crooked criminals of pharmacy decide that the cheap drug that will cure a lot of people is not worth their time, but the costly nonefficient drug is worth it, the pharmacy companies are a bunch of bull shit
I ate cancer with some fava beans and a nice chianti...fsfsfsf
In my world, fish can speak English. You assholes still haven't figured out how to cure cancer?
herd we finaly cured cancer? no thanks to OBAMA
Hold up, wait a minute. Let's just put some kush up in it.
HIIIIII EVERYBODY!
Well, I have a PhD in parapsychology and psychology.
But what about curing every species cancer? Humans...and mutants alike.
HOLD UP - I'MA LET YOU FINISH... BUT THE PHARM. Co'S HAD THE BEST CANCER CURE OF ALL TIME. OF ALL TIME!!
If there is a cure then we should back it.
1. Create cure for cancer.
2. Fail to market cure.
3. ??????
4. Profit!!!
I find it pretty pathetic how a lot of you TRULY believe that the pharmaceutical companies are evil and that they "don't care" or that they think "it's not worth it". Stop wallowing around in your self pity and realize not everyone is out to get you. I mean, it's good to be critical, but you're just being ridiculous.
The logic behind this is pretty questionable, and even if it worked there's no guarantee that it will cure ALL cancer, and if there was something this simple wouldn't someone have found it years ago?
Not to mention anyone who thinks that a pharmaceutical company would not want to sell a "cancer curing" drug is a fool. Who wouldn't want their company name on it?!
@ Person
Back off and leave Shocked alone. To those with no biol experience, it's hard to tell if it's true until you reach those with bile experience. The more our 'friends' link to this article, the more inexperienced net users will NOT read the comments, link it to their friends and go hassle their doctors. If those that recognised misinformation fought it instead of joining in the net would be a better place, especially for those who don't use it 24/7. (Wow, that comes across as preachy- but seriously, try to keep rabid insensitivity to 4chan.)
Ziggy, I'm ready to leap for this!
Great Scott! A cure for cancer, Marty - do you know what this means?!
Do you not understand?
This ship's aim, Destiny's aim, our destiny, was to bring this cure for cancer to the people.
I heard the actual cure for cancer is written on the back of the Declaration of Independence...
For those interested in the research and not the argument, there is another article that goes into a little more depth about the research going on with this treatment.
http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100512/full/news.2
It's from Nature magazine's website. It's from 2010 whereas the article above refers (at the bottom) to research done at the University of Alberta in 2007.
Anyone with the knowledge, training, experience and interest to evaluate any 'evidence' of these claims will do so upon receipt of such evidence. Insults, false information and other non-productive material does nothing but lower the credibility of a site making astounding claims. I will not return to this site; I will investigate the links as well as the University in question through direct contact and proceed from that point. What I know from a lifetime of direct involvement in the research and treatment of cancer does not at this point give me reason to believe that this is more than another 'cold fusion' claim. Also, I think that anyone who spreads false hope about possible cancer cures actually slows progress when they make these claims, since time is wasted in the investigations of them.
No... really?
I believe that - this "cancer cure", in particular... is inherently, one's deeper desire to copulate with one's own mother. But I digress...
*Revs up Chainsaw*
Did you hear 'bout that thar stuff that the GOVERNMENT
Just give it one more shot.
Why Cancer, whatever do you mean? Maybe killin's just not your game, Cancer. I know! Let's have a spelling contest!
dang I can't, too upset, my dawg has cancer and the dang government is givin out cancer cure to ALIENS while WE IS THE ONES A NEEDIN IT......
It's true or elst they can't put it on the intranets
....
Don't even get me started on this.
The problem isn't in the cancer.. it's in the shoes you're wearing. Custom-fit orthotics? Problem solved.
Cops on the corner always ignore
Somebody's getting paid
Jimmy's got it wired, law's for hire
Got it made in the shade
Got a little hideaway, does business all day
But at night he'll always be found
Sellin' sugar to the sweet
People on the street
Call this Jimmy's town
Sup' my fellow Doctors~! :)
http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comici explains everything.
For those asking for a medical journal to check all the facts. Here is the updated report from the university where they published it on AAAS/Science Magazine.
http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/2/31/31ra34.abst
Now bear in mind that unless you are at a University, or a paying member of the site, you will only ever be able to read the abstract of the entire journal. So be careful for what you wish for, you might find that it may come true.
Cancer? I've got a prescription for kickass.
I can cure snatch cancer.
Just as planned.
this is so much crap! try telling the research lab at the Christie's caner hospital all they care about is money, this is all so fake and it dose my head in these stupid dumb idiots!! i have just lost some one to caner and if it really was so simple to cure i 100% guarantee you that the doctors and medical staff at every hospital on the world will jump right on it!
But tom, we are.
We're mutants, Cancer. We're just like you.
I AM NOT A DOCTOOOOORRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV.
what happened to karkat?
So does this work or not?
@ a doctor
you clearly not!, as if the people who came up with this 'amazing discovery' wouldn't start selling this standard cheep drug as a caner cure or spreading the word like mad! its bin 4 year and if its real then all they would need to do is get in touch with hospitals like maybe in England were the health service isn't messed up and works and they ask your name first instead of your insurance details! and it would spread like wild fire!
its all so much crap its not a simple fix, almost nothing is!
No cancer, I don't expect you to self-replicate, I expect you to die.
What, what, what are you doing!?
Steve, Kathy, I am Dr. Steven Poop. I'm sorry, there's absolutely nothing that can be done for cancer... But I can do the robot~.. .. .. that'll be 5000 dollars
Cancer cures - it's for your health, dummy!
So i herd u liek cancer?
What bugs me about this article is that is calls the mitochondria a type of cell when the mitochondria is actually an organelle found in cells O.O
Hey Dr why you so stupid
There is no such thing as "cancer"
We cured this shit in the 60's with tight trousers and scotch.
All the c-c-c-c-c-cocaine I do keeps Doctor Rockzo from getting cancer!
I would like for you all to take a look at the man who uploaded this article and what other things he has uploaded to the website. Whatever makes you credit this man with knowledge about medical research... Please share.
MY SPERM CURES CANCER
A live body and a dead body contain the same number of particles. Structurally, there’s no discernible difference. Life and death are unquantifiable abstracts. Why should I be concerned about cancer?
John kan i haz
Easy; cqull8m Comes from a HOUSE of learned doctors.
@tom
It's not as easy as that.
We're trying our hardest yeah, you feel me?
How cruel to torment cancer sufferers this way.Shame on you all.
keeping a good sense of humor about something so grave is a good thing.
Primitive medicine! You're still using Dialysis for god sakes (Jim)!
Now stop bickering over cancer, it's cured in 2014 by a Scottish scientist.
As Winston Churchill said "Of all the small nations of this earth, perhaps only the ancient Greeks surpass the Scots in their contribution to mankind."
So you know the cure will come from the Scots.
Ok..if the Pharm companies "had" a cancer cure, they would produce it to make HUGE profits, right?
Or would they bury it to make even HUGER profits from "Treatments"?
what about the Insurance compaies that pay out (a %) for this treatment? Wouldnt they want the cure to be readily avaialble so they could reduce their costs?
So, you have the "Conspiracy Theory" vs. the "Bullsh1t Theory".
After reading the original article(above) and ignoring most of the posted comments, I find that this article was probably written by someone that never passed High School Chemistry or Biology. they just quoted a few lines from different sources and failed to note those sources.
But, WhatdaHell, it was a fun read!
I just want to point out to "Dr Davis" that he is mixing up glycolysis, which is anaerobic, with the TCA cycle and oxidative phosphorylation, which glycolysis feeds into under aerobic conditions and which require oxygen. If Dr Davis is a researcher, I assume s/he is not a biochemist or indeed literate enough to read the article to which s/he linked.
As for this story: until a decent phase III clinical trial demonstrates its efficacy, I don't care how good it is on paper. Biology is full of surprises and otherwise fantastic drugs can throw up horrible surprises very late on in development. (see Vioxx, for example) A quick look on clinicaltrials.gov shows that it is still in phase I/II.
With regard to the alleged suppression of this drug candidate by Big Pharma: my understanding is that a new drug does not have to be a new chemical entity in order to be patented for a new application. A quick look at the Wikipedia article for DCA illustrates this: the usual "Big Pharma suppresses good drugs!" conspiracy theory is wheeled out, but in the same paragraph it is noted that Dr Michelakis has applied for a patent on DCA as a cancer therapy.
Judging by the Wikipedia article and a quick glance at some of Dr Michelakis' publications, I suspect that this 'controversy' has been stoked up by the man himself. The Wiki article reads like his autobiography. Whether this is to attract funding (which seems fair enough to me) or genuinely out of paranoia I wouldn't care to say.
its just sad . the pharmaceutical companies are more interested in making money than saving people's lives
Through this letter, I intend to serve as a facilitator who will help you draw your own conclusions about Modern medicine. That is, I'll be your "guide on the side", not a "sage on the stage". With my assistance, you'll soon gain a deep understanding of how Modern medicine has managed to establish a vast number of sleeper cells around the world that, on its command, will obfuscate the issue so that one can't see what ought to be entirely obvious to all. First, the misinformation: Modern medicine suggests that cannibalism, wife-swapping, and the murder of infants and the elderly are acceptable behavior. Where the heck did it come up with that? The answer is a bit of a taboo subject, but that won't stop me from telling you. You see, Modern medicine is locked into its present course of destruction. It does not have the interest or the will to change its fundamentally myopic self-fulfilling prophecies. On a closing note, I hope that this letter, while incomplete, informal, and having no authority except its own inner strength and conviction, has clearly demonstrated to you that Modern medicine obsesses not with what it can do for this country but with what it can extract from it.
And for sure, got a cure cause you're not a peeper
I will touch you, I will touch you, d-d-deeper
Although I would very much like to tell the truth about Modern medicine, there are several obstacles that make it difficult to deal stiffly with materialism-prone, deceitful crackpots who discredit and intimidate the opposition. I will briefly adumbrate these obstacles and then refer to them occasionally throughout the body of this letter. First and foremost, you may make the comment, "What does this have to do with sadistic proletariats?" Well, once you begin to see the light you'll realize that if you think you can escape from Modern medicine's stroppy scare tactics, then good-bye and good luck. To the rest of you I suggest that if you want truth, you have to struggle for it. This letter represents my struggle, my attempt at showing you, as dispassionately as possible, what kind of obstinate, antihumanist thoughts Modern medicine is thinking about these days. It is also my soapbox for informing the community at large that I find it necessary, if I am to meet my reader on something like a common ground of understanding, to point out that the unalterable law of biology has a corollary that is generally overlooked. Specifically, Modern medicine's grand plan is to blacklist its nemeses as terrorist sympathizers or traitors. I'm sure Mao Tse Tung would approve. In any case, Modern medicine says that everyone would be a lot safer if it were to monitor all of our personal communications and financial transactions—even our library records. Why on Earth does Modern medicine need to monitor our library records? Perhaps the answer is best saved for another letter. Let me simply note that no man who values himself, who has any regard for sound morality, or who feels any desire to see intellectual progress made certain, can rightfully join Modern medicine's debauched attempt to compose paeans to neocolonialism.
What we have been imparting to Modern medicine—or what it has been eliciting from us—is a half-submerged, barely intended logic, contaminated by wishes and tendencies we prefer not to acknowledge. Leaving aside the behavior of other tendentious extremists, the virus of incendiarism took control of our country's political life long ago. Now, thanks to Modern medicine's communiqués, that virus will continue to spread until no one can recall that the impact of Modern medicine's prolix magic-bullet explanations is exactly that predicted by the Book of Revelation. Evil will preside over the land. Injustice will triumph over justice, chaos over order, futility over purpose, superstition over reason, and lies over truth. Only when humanity experiences this Hell on Earth will it fully appreciate that every time Modern medicine tells its slaves that it can walk on water, their eyes roll into the backs of their heads as they become mindless receptacles of unsubstantiated information, which they accept without question. If we look beyond Modern medicine's delusions of grandeur, we see that I want my life to count. I want to be part of something significant and lasting. I want to make an impartial and well-informed evaluation of the advantages and disadvantages of Modern medicine's convictions. Before you read this letter, you might have thought that society is supposed to be lenient towards empty-headed Neanderthals. Now you know that Modern medicine's hariolations are colored by a sycophantic adoration of animalism.
...This article's biochemistry and cell anatomy are all wrong....I suggest whoever wrote this take a basic highschool biology course.
I asked my Dad, who's a biochemist, on what he thought about this article. Here's what he said:
"Note that the initial article has a significant inaccuracy of content. Mitochondria are not cells but subcellular component of *all* cells. Thus, if their function is not specific to any one cell. In fact, some cell types - nerve and muscle cells - are full of mitochondria, thus, DCA in high enough doses can have widespread perhaps adverse effects. In fact, the Wiki article mentions nerve toxicity in children given the drug to help with lactic acidosis.
DCA is a very simple compound. As a biochemist, I can understand exactly how it works. This is described on the wiki page: it inhibits a very fundamental metabolic enzyme, pyrvate dehydrogenase kinase. The results look interesting. The Wiki article says that the drug is in phase II medical trials. This is the SOP for all drugs, a very systematic process. Drug companies haven't ignored the drug. Rather, it is still being systematically and rigorous brought through normal regulatory "due diligent" assessment. If cancer cells are significantly more susceptible to undergo apoptosis with the drug, even at lower doses, then perhaps DCA will be added to the arsenal of available chemotherapy agents as a cross-cutting therapy that complements other therepy. In some aggressive cancers that don't have any treatment yet - e.g. pancreatic
I'd be astonished if the drug completely cures cancer. Nonetheless, it looks like a promising new non-selective chemotherapy agent."
@a logical thinker
If it was cheap, it wouldn't save insurance companies money, it would cost them customers. If there's nothing to die from, or a cheap cure for everything, they have no customer base. Think before you tell people you know how to think. Also, the author of this article wrote it for reading by the general public, not for anyone of the medical profession... And writing "I find that" implies research into the matter, where you actually mean "In my poorly educated, self-professed wisdom I hereby proclaim this individual to be silly, and henceforth, by royal decree shall be mocked by even less educated persons."
In response to Mr. More Logical Thinker's prevarications, I would like to offer the following opposing points. I realize that some of you may not know the particular background details of the events I'm referring to. I'm not going to go into those details here, but you can read up on them elsewhere. I wish I didn't have to be the one to break the news that I could hazard a guess and say that Mr. Thinker's favorite delusional couch potatoes will view countries and the people that live in them either as economic targets to be exploited or as military targets to be defeated when you least expect it. Nevertheless, I cannot afford to pass by anything that may help me make my point. So let me just state that I try never to argue with Mr. Thinker because it's clear he's not susceptible to reason. He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. Of course, people like Mr. Thinker who do in fact perpetrate evil overthrow all concepts of beauty and sublimity, of the noble and the good, and instead drag people down into the sphere of his own base nature.
Now let's go back to what I was saying earlier about how Mr. Thinker reminds me of the thief who cries "Stop, thief!" to distract attention from his thievery. As I previously stated, his hijinks cannot stand on their own merit. That's why they're dependent on elaborate artifices and explanatory stories to convince us that laws are meant to be broken. He has for so long been nursing the wrongs he imagines the world had done him that Mr. Thinker is determined to exact revenge by driving us into a state of apoplexy. (Yes, the rectitude of sadism has become a matter of theological conviction for him, but that's a different story.) When one examines the ramifications of letting Mr. Thinker judge people by the color of their skin while ignoring the content of their character, one finds a preponderance of evidence leading to the conclusion that while he's out censoring by caricature and preempting discussion by stereotype, the general public is shouldering the bill. Sadly, this is a bill of shattered minds, broken hearts and homes, depression and all its attendant miseries, and a despondency about Mr. Thinker's attempts to start wars, ruin the environment, invent diseases, and routinely do a hundred other things that kill people.
Even leaving aside the thorny matter of divining the varying proportion of Mr. Thinker's connivance, acquiescence, foreknowledge, exploitation, and incompetence in carrying out "preventive operations" (that means "targeted killings") against his rivals, we can state the following as an established fact: He who pays the piper calls the tune. With that in mind, I did a little research to find where Mr. Thinker gets his money. It turns out that it comes primarily from treasonous dossers, jejune smear merchants, and—you guessed it—prissy, rabid schemers. This explains why Mr. Thinker often argues that his policies are our final line of defense against tyrrany. A similar argument was first made over 1200 years ago by a well-known goof-off and was quickly disproved. In those days, however, no one would have doubted that if we don't remove the More Logical Thinker threat now, it will bite us in our backside one of these days. To be quite frank, Mr. Thinker once tried to convince a bunch of us that we can stop solipsism merely by permitting government officials entrée into private homes to search for self-aggrandizing soi-disant do-gooders. Fortunately, calmer heads prevailed and a number of people informed the rest of the gang that Mr. Thinker is a being who invents nothing, originates nothing, and improves nothing. All he does is threaten national security. Many the things I've talked about in this letter are obvious. We all know they're true. But still it's necessary for us to say them because "Mr. More Logical Thinker" has become a byword for treachery and deceit.
I'm the one they call dr feelgood
I'm the one that make you feel alright
I agree with Dr. Davis, this is a joke, and it's not even funny.
You children need a slap.
Would everyone please shut the hell up. Thank you. Nobody has a single clue as to what it is that they are talking about.
Fun.
ya niggaz listen up.
dis article is bullshit bros
peace
People should read this:
When this cancer hits 88, you're gonna see some serious shit.
Hmmm, you all seem to have such widespread views on this matter, I only noticed a few of you actually bothering to find out your own research.
It would b nice if this article was true, and just ignorant if it were a joke.
I am quite interested to see the result of this extensive converstaion.
S.H.
I do not beliebe this.
I am a graduate student in biological sciences. I have yet to read the straight research article, but everyone here can be rest assured that I will. I can tell you that the article above has MANY flaws, and I don't know if it is because of the research being worthless or a poor job of some journalist summing up the information. Mitochondria DO NOT fight cancer. They are responsible for breaking down glucose and other sugar molecules into ATP for energy for the cell. Glycolysis is not at all involved in cancer, it is a form of metabolism that all human cells use (glycogen for high blood sugar and glucose is switched to when low blood sugar levels are observed). I can also tell you that changing the type of matbolism, if they are indeed able to do so, would only affect the cells AT THE CENTER OF THE TUMOR/CLUSTER OF CELLS. That means the exterior cells of the tumor/cluster would still be fine if switched out of gluconeogenesis. This means they would still move and promote further tumors. ALSO: THOUGH THE PROCESS OF GLYCOLYSIS MAY PRODUCE LACTIC ACID IT DOES NOT ALLOW THE TUMOR TO EAT THROUGH OTHER TISSUE
my mum has cancer.
this isn't funny.
I think this is very interesting, as it highlights cancer as a result of metabolic disorder. If one went low-carb and prevented and/or reversed metabolic syndrome, they may improve their odds of staying cancer-free. Read Gary Taubes GCBC. Peace out.
but is modern medicine altering the process of natural selection? i say yes.
That's it. Stop just reading blogs. Any moron with an internet connection can blog whatever crap he or she thinks... like the fact that mitochondria are cells. Yeah, they're not cells, they're part of the cell. I'm not even a biologist and I know that! I am a chemist though, so I do know a horrid argument when I see one. You guys want to crusade that this "miracle" make it to the public? Why don't you read what is actually being done. Here's a link in a journal, not some blog some random person wrote. This is written by the people who are doing the research that this blogger is incredibly misinformed on.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC25670
When you've read this, and read the references, look up this article in google scholar. Then click on the link that shows you how many people have cited this work, go read their articles, and so on. If you really care, you will take the time to educate yourselves.
Nonsense, only Dracula's moonbase laser can cure cancer.
Give me the news.
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This is the dumbest thing I have ever read. As a Pharmacy student I study all of this (cells, how cells die and survive,drugs etc)
-All cells use glycolysis (which uses oxygen to make ATP)
-The mitochondria is whats called an organelle, it is not a cancer fighting cell. It's a component of a cell. (A component all cells have except for red blood cells)
-Mitochondria are not solely responsible (if at all) for killing cells. That's a part of the whole cells genome and signaling processes.
-No trials or studies (from the scientific community) are cited in this whole article, therefore no proof at all.
I think it is obvious what we must do. Cut off all their heads. Clearly they are vampires.
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@Dr. Doctor - You know, if I wasn't in the middle of writing a paper on student's misconceptions in science (I actually am) then i might track everything down for you and sum it up. The problem is, unless you actually care about the knowledge you probably won't learn it. After all, most people who read this blog were fine with the outright false scientific information in it. So why don't you invest the time given the information provided to find out what is being done yourself. Maybe if you actually have to put some effort into it you will learn something. Follow the link I posted, and see who has cited that paper since then.
Very good news for everyone. I just hope it is shared with the medical world more..
COCAINE!
This is really odd, you lot shouldn't even come close to finding a cure for about another twenty years, this, this is fake.
Well, I'd best be off now, alons-y!
I dont know about cancer but who's in the mood for a lollipop?
Since 1/3 canadians will get cancer, and 1/4 will die of cancer, that makes it highly probable that the people ''holding this cure back'' have been affected directly or indirectly by cancer (friend/family or self has gotten cncer) so WHY would they HOLD it back?
Wow! This was a fantastic with which to go to sleep. Humor, wit a few facts--most jumbled. I teach classes on time management and you all have given me a wonderful EXAMPLE of time usage. What I like to ask my corporate student is this: Do you know the purpose of the conversations you choose to participate in? Because if there is no purpose, you are wasting time. My purpose here is to thank each and everyone of you who posted. Dr. Who, House, Watson, McCoy--you rock. Meanwhile if I was dying of cancer I would try anything proven or not. So there is no harm in seeking, but REALLY all you folks do this chatting thing all the time? I hope you don't work for me, I actually expect folks to earn their wages. LOL
I bet cgull8m, the owner of this post is like, "OMFG, WHAT THE HELL, 4 REPLIES IN 3 YEARS and 10,000 in 24 hours!!!" Yup... Twitter and Facebook have too much power to spread information (whether is true or not)
If you use wikipedia as a for sure reference... You are an idiot
Here's a link to a paper released last month detailing DCA treatment by a Canadian doctor. It was published in a medical journal and therefore was subject to peer review.
This is all bull. All of you go back to reading your high school biology text book, from the looks of it, most of you don't even know the difference among fiction and reality.
As t was told by someone in the Medical filed, there`s no money in healthy people. follow the money trail!
so this is how you guys spend friday nights hahaha
This one time I went to college and learned about mitochondria being the energy producers in the cell and that cancer was mutations in a cell.
But I mean that was like 3 months ago so maybe EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED NOW THAT IT IS THE FUTURE
>so this is how you guys spend friday nights hahaha
You know you're posting here too, right?
Sick of sensationalist rubbish like this. Oh yes big evil corporations are intentionally hiding the cure for cancer because they can't patent it.
If this method is already used for treating metabolic disorders i guess that means its already on the approved fda substance list, so easy to trial,show me some statistics and i might consider the veracity of this article for more than a couple of seconds.
Soooooooooooooooo
You'd think if the pharmaceutical companies aren't investing in the cure that the cigarette companies would be all over this. What better way to attract your customers back than to help in the cure!
OMG, all of you that are calling this fake or saying where is the proof....the link to the U of A website with their findings is right at the bottom of the article!!! This article might be abit sloppy but this is legit. The University of Alberta is amongst the top institutions in the world for research and medicine.
"In human bodies there is a natural cancer fighting human cell, the mitochondria, but they need to be triggered to be effective. Scientists used to think that these mitochondria cells were damaged and thus ineffective against cancer. So they used to focus on glycolysis, which is less effective in curing cancer and more wasteful. The drug manufacturers focused on this glycolysis method to fight cancer. This DCA on the other hand doesn’t rely on glycolysis instead on mitochondria; it triggers the mitochondria which in turn fights the cancer cells."
Wrong-Mitichondria are organelles, part of a body cell. They are not a cell themselves. And although they do play a part in the c ell destruction, it is ALOT more complicated then that.
I agree with the basic message of this post-that the "treatment" should be readily available after proper testing is implemented, I just wish you would have researched your info a little better. Then it might have sounded more convincing and a little less like a conspiracy theory.
Did no one read the article? It has a link http://www.dca.med.ualberta.ca/Home/Updates/2007-0 from the University of Alberta with information regarding this treatment method.
It must to be true... Even if the cure of cancer was discovered. Doctors and all the people that get gain with the treatment, they will not say.
I can say it, because I'm a nursing student, andI know the dark side of the area of healthcare...
Very sad hopefuly they snap out of it and start saving people
To all the skeptics....this is not new. It was on the news...youtube it.
this is over 3 years old btw
Fuck all of you who think it's okay to joke on such a serious topic maybe one day someone you love with be diagnosed with cancer and you'll understand. It'd be nice to know why is really going on. I just lost my mom to cancer last week and I'm only 18. I pray that if this really is a cure at some point it gets out and can cure other people in memory of my mom and for all you people who think it's funny to make jokes and shot i pray you find out how it feels one day to come home from college and see your mother lying there dead because no one four a cure for her
Wait up, aren't mitochondria organelles? in all my 1000 years of study (I forgot to mention that I'm also a Time Lord), I'm pretty sure that came up.
My cat has a big old tumor. Can I give it to him? Please send it over.
I know several people who have cured their cancer naturally. Spirulina shrinks cancer cells, therapuetic grade essential oils shrink cancer cells...these are two examples out of many. The placebo effect illustrates the power of the mind...those who believe cancer cannot be cured are right. Those that believe they can be healed are right too. My mom experimented with the these two options in addition to all the standard medical treatments. Her cancer spread like wild fire and she died within eight months of contracting cancer....however, when she was diligent with her alternative therapies her cancerous growths actually did shrink. It was heartbreaking to watch the cycles of shrinkage, then she'd stop the alternative treatments for a while and her humors would grow. She couldn't understand the connection or keep track of the cycles herself and her doctors discouraged her from eating the spirulina because they just didn't trust it....I sat in the office next to her when the doctor told her she could eat mcdonalds hamburgers and it wouldn't make a different..."eat what you WANT" he said...back to microwaved food, fast food, and sugar (which cancer thrives on). All I ask of the doctors is educate yourselves on the benefits of healthy eating while going through treatment. I am still working on forgiveness towards the doctor (although I know some doctors do educate themselves beyond the AMA and would never dream of telling a cancer patient that diet has no impact whatsoever). When she stopped the spirulina, the shrinkage stopped and she died...quickly. My cousin, who is a very prominent doctor who makes regular tv appearances called me once and asked me to visit her office because all of the nurses were sick. She also told me that she was dying. The exact words she used "I am dying. I am not healthy like you" Nobody in medical school taught her how to be healthy, and she was so busy being a doctor that she didn't have the time to figure it out on her own. Again, all I ask is that when dealing with people's LIVES, please stick with what you know and be willing to admit that you don't have all the answers when a patient asks about something you know nothing about. I am typing this on my phone, can't proof read so please don't rag on me about typos or spelling. These are minor details, not basis for completely discrediting someone. And, I don't plan on coming back to this site to read more comments anyway...as tempting as it may be, it's time to do something useful. It's been fun and educational.
Please read The Cure, by Timothy Brantley.
I think this may be the cure for cancer.
Cure For Cancer, just know that we're never gonna give you up/never gonna let you down/never gonna run around and desert you.
If there is any truth to this whole "thing" it will take TIME for people to reap the benefits. This whole writing is 99% rubbish and an insult to intelligence with the goofball mentality that most have responded with. The love of money will make it extremely hard for any cure for cancer of any type to be found, researched, documented, tested and finally made available to the public,that is true.
PHILLIES
I just have this one thing to said, if cancerous has been fought off by DCP then why is noone ever talking a notice? Im a doctorb and I have never hear of such wonderful cacner killer, in wher im from, The Hague, we fight cancer with fire/vinegar to great effect, but with low success rate on survival scale. This arcitle seems to be legit but ~*Do not be fool*~ "glycolosys" is just a lot of medical tomfool, it *DOES NOT EXIST* ~ glycolosis & Mitochondra are myths but satisfying for big business to perpetuate because they make the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Thank you fiends, my love to all
Dr Horakrakovahn.
Who cares about cancer? When I'm accepted into the Evil League of Evil and rule the world, I'll be the one administering cures.
Who cares about cancer? When I'm accepted into the Evil League of Evil and rule the world, I'll be the one administering cures.
Considering the first comment on this page is from 3 years ago, I'm gonna assume this article isn't legit.
Apricot Pits!
People, calm down.
This procedure is highly experimental, and in some cases is proven to increase tumor growth. It is not definite nor is it completely safe. There is a hype, yes, we do have a lead on improvement, yes, but it isn't complete. Doctors have been using Dichloroacetic Acid (DCA) on cancer patients for a while, and that's why in some cases cancer has "vanished". Some doctors don't believe in the use of DCA, as it IS indeed proven to sometimes make it worse. It's all experimental and it is good news, but don't get too excited.
I mean quit all the mumbo jumbo and ego meniscus and eat real food for god's sake.
jeez!
Huh?
Trololololooololl
@Kelly They're not making fun of cancer or cancer sufferers - they're making fun of snake oil merchants, folks who puff themselves up pretending to be experts, and folks who'll believe and repeat anything they read on the Interwebs. (Also, they're making my stomach hurt from laughing so much, even though - probably like most of the people here, including the clowns - my life's been touched by cancer too.)
Basically, the jokers are on the side of cancer patients, who deserve better than this bullshit.
In Soviet Russia cancer cures you!
Not me, I'm making fun of cancer victims!
LOL
To the author: I hope this is a joke.
To the stupids who are believing this: it's very sad but not surprising. How about giving a try at reading an actual biology book instead of believing any bullshit that you find on the internet? It's not because an author uses a few big words that he knows what he's talking about, and in this case, that he even understands the meaning of these big words.
Oh internet! You will always find a way to entertain me!
TROLL- IN THE DUNGEON! ...I thought you ought to know.
How many weasley's does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
To treat cancer, all you need is a KISS of dichloroacetate. Trust me, I'm a doctor.
LOL!
The only cure to cancer is GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO
NONE they screw in the burrow
I'm... hesitant.
well, i do believe this is true because i have a phd.
phd: pretty huge d...
author has no idea what he's talking about.....
I'm pretty sure it's metalloproteases and proteolytic enzymes that allow metastasis, and not lactic acid. The cited source shows no data nor explains any mechanisms.
Lol Cancer can be cured by back massages. Everyone knows that :)
Not to mention all the donations the cancer nonprofits get to "find a cure"...they should be involved in pushing this!
TELL ME WHERE THE CURE FOR CANCER IS!!!!!!!
Everyone knows that cancer can only be cured on Fridays.
I don't always use chemicals and substances generally associated with regulating metabolism levels when thinking up cures for various forms of cancer, but when I do I always use dichloroacetate!
Yeah. We’ve got a black man as president, and we have more complaining about cancer than ever. I mean, I think that’s hilarious.
STEM CELL TECHNOLOGY WILL BE THE CANCER CURE...
Someone needs to tell the papa-paparazzi about this!
What, only two people have thought of "Dr. Strangelove"? C'mon, people!
One cure,
two cure,
red cure,
blue cure!
All the women with cancer just need to lie down for a while.
Let's all chagrin a chagrinin' cure for this great chagrin!
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"Dr. Spaceman, when DCA kills cancer cells in vitro, does it automatically mean that it works in vivo?"
Absolutely. Science is... whatever we want it to be.
Yeah, this is horse shit. I created cancer as a plague to cleanse the earth of the sinful and wicked. Do you think I'd let you off the hook so easily with just DCA? Repent, ye sinner, and be cured of your malignancy!
The important thing is that everyone stays calm! And don't call me Shirley.
I've no idea. I'm not a doctor, I just play one on tv. Okay really I don't. I'm just Dr. Not a Real Doctor. *shrugs*
I'm loving the comments section. Look at how many doctors came out to comment! Really impressive! Dr. Who, to escape the Daleks, run up the stairs. Hopefully they aren't the newer, flight equipped Daleks.
Like Dolittle does do little, but I am the master, I doFuckAll, this is why I have not cured cancer.
Seriously, though. I wish to appear that I know more than all of you so I will offer an opinion contrary to the article and then cite my credentials, insult you all to make you feel dumb (mostly to make me feel smart, though) and PROFIT!
I love the internet. I always win
Hi, I'm Doctor Pal! That's because I'm a Doctor, but I'm also your pal. Are we cool?
First!
I'm not a real doctor, but I play one on a rock band stage. Cancer cells are simply cells that are in the right place, but at the wrong tim In order to cure cancer, we simply need to move them to the wrong place at the right time. Send for my FREE book that your doctor doesn't want you to read. Absolutely free, simply send in $19.95 to cover shipping and handling and I'll include my second free bok, entitled Even More Things Your Doctor Does Not Want You To Know!
I am just trying to make an honest living. Cant an uncontrolled growth of abnormal cells in the body get a break?
The solutivery simple! More play time, returning to naps and cookie time and me to lead you all to a Utpoian Playland!
TELL ME ABOUT THE F*CKING GOLF SHOES!
I'm not a real doctor.
Lol guys. I'm not even s doctor! HAHA. srsly though, come neverland, we don't get cancer.
http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v99/n7/full/6604
A friend of mine found their first article on British Journal of Cancer, for anyone who's interested in reading the peer-reviewed version.
well must say not everything is about money. wouldnt they rather saves lives? seriously wat is wrong with the world.
Guys I can assure you I am a doctor of the vagina. I have the magical touch.
okay, so this article is inaccurate, but it is the lack of mitochondria in cancer cells that allows them to spread at such a fast rate. And the University of Alberta is ongoing their research in this area and are making progress. although it is far from a legitimate cure, activating the mitochondria in cancer cells would more or less make them benign and therefore easier to treat.
This is a potential, but honestly there are so many potentials out there. Research is being done that shows that RNAi can be used to help treat cancer. The point is, there is a lotta research out there, but for people to be saying that these pharmaceutical companies are heartless is ridiculous. This has been tested on mice. Why would a pharmacy jump right in and say YES we want to sell this to the population and CURE cancer? DCA probably has no side effects on patients, seeing as it has been used for other things, but economically Rx companies aren't going to jump right in there and start spending millions on the production, marketing, and advertising of a drug that they aren't even sure yet would cure cancer. Yes, this is still great to hear. I read the peer-reviewed version, and its something people need to read first before being like, "OMG Rx companies are terrible people! WTF!".
I couldn't resist! Thanks everybody...serious topic turned hilarious!
I couldn't resist! Thanks everybody...serious topic turned hilarious!
People READ the damn article...
http://www.dca.med.ualberta.ca/Home/Updates/2010-0
The University of Alberta in Canada is real... I've been there. We live in the city!!
The research is real and the findings were also real.
The above article, perhaps not so well written. But please do the research and actually READ the findings for the scientists at the university.
(Preferably before you run your mouth about it all being "bullshit" and make ourselves look like fools.
In this letter I intend to express my views about modern medicine with gentleness and respect. To begin with, even modern medicine's operatives are afraid that modern medicine will equip scurrilous pests with flame throwers, hand grenades, and heat-seeking missiles faster than you can say "scientificoreligious". I have seen their fear manifested over and over again, and it is further evidence that no matter what terms are used, modern medicine is obviously hiding something. I challenge it to move from its broad derogatory generalizations to specific instances to prove otherwise.
There is a simple answer to the question of what to do about modern medicine's screeds. The difficult part is in implementing the answer. The answer is that we must introduce an important but underrepresented angle on modern medicine's horny jibes. Modern medicine's idolators argue that the world is crying out to labor beneath its firm but benevolent heel. These are the same improvident slubberdegullions who create an unwelcome climate for those of us who are striving to oppose our human vices wherever they may be found—arrogance, hatred, jealousy, unfaithfulness, avarice, and so on. This is no coincidence; money is not the solution to our modern medicine problem. Once we realize that, what do we do? The appropriate thing, in my judgment, is to show some backbone. I say that because its dream is to assume total control over society's means of production. Those with membership cards in modern medicine's imperium will be given whatever they want while the rest of us will be sent away empty-handed. In addition to being thoroughly unfair, such policies promote hurting others physically or emotionally. Furthermore, it is capable of only two things, namely whining and underhanded tricks.
I wouldn't even mention that I think that, in the main, it is ridiculous that I have to be faced with peculators whose grumpy memoranda are constantly treated with apathy if it weren't sincerely true. Modern medicine tries to make us think the way it wants us to think, not by showing us evidence and reasoning with us but by understanding how to push our emotional buttons. It's definitely astounding that modern medicine has found a way to work the words "cinematographical" and "ultrastandardization" into its grievances. However, you may find it even more astounding that malignant stumblebums of one sort or another are born, not made. That dictum is as unimpeachable as the "poeta nascitur, non fit" that it echoes and as irreproachable as the brocard that modern medicine says that "metanarratives" are the root of tyranny, lawlessness, overpopulation, racial hatred, world hunger, disease, and rank stupidity. Such verbal gems teach us that we must ensure that modern medicine receives its just deserts. As mentioned above, however, that is not enough. It is necessary to do more. It is necessary to ask modern medicine to rephrase its criticisms in a more reasoned way.
Some people think I'm exaggerating when I say that one often finds modern medicine in the company of irascible stuffed shirts or other unsavory characters. But I'm not exaggerating; if anything, I'm understating the situation. I overheard one of modern medicine's expositors say, "We should cast our lots with huffy tightwads." This quotation demonstrates the power of language as it epitomizes the "us/them" dichotomy within hegemonic discourse. As for me, I prefer to use language to criticize modern medicine's prevarications publicly for their formalistic categories, their spurious claims of neutrality, and their blindness to the abuse of private power.
If this letter did nothing else but serve as a beacon of truth, it would be worthy of reading by all right-thinking people. However, this letter's role is much greater than just to call for proper disciplinary action against modern medicine and its hired goons. Modern medicine's views no more represent the convictions of those of us here than Louis XVI's represented the sentiments of the French people. Regular readers of my letters probably take that for granted, but if I am to protect our peace, privacy, and safety, I must explain to the population at large that modern medicine's lamentations have kept us separated for too long from the love, contributions, and challenges of our brothers and sisters in this wonderful adventure we share together—life!
Modern medicine drops the names of famous people whenever possible. That makes it sound smarter than it really is and obscures the fact that if we contradict modern medicine, we are labelled yellow-bellied publicity hounds. If we capitulate, however, we forfeit our freedoms. Modern medicine's epithets do not represent progress. They represent insanity masquerading as progress. Now, lest you jump to the conclusion that two wrongs make a right, I assure you that we have been lied to, distracted, misled, and duped by modern medicine. (The merits of modern medicine's credos won't be discussed here because they lack merit.)
That which is built inextricably into the laws of the universe cannot be totally mingy. But there is a further-reaching implication: If its hypnopompic insights were intended as a joke, it forgot to include the punchline. Each rung on the ladder of Lysenkoism is a crisis of some kind. Each crisis supplies an excuse for modern medicine to go to great lengths to conceal its true aims and mislead the public. That is the standard process by which unconscionable bullies develop mind-control technology. At the same time, in modern medicine's limited horizon it itself is the important object. As a sequence to this self-conceit, it imagines that it's okay to leave the educational and emotional needs of our children in the pathetic hands of self-aggrandizing lowlifes. We therefore need to explain to it that it may not be easy to get the modern medicine monkey off our backs and off other people's backs as well, but it can be done. And it needs to be done. And we must always remember that modern medicine accuses me of being narrow-minded. Does it insist I'm narrow-minded because I refuse to accept its claim that black is white and night is day? If so, then I guess I'm as narrow-minded as I could possibly be.
I believe that the best way to overcome misunderstanding, prejudice, and hate is by means of reason, common sense, clear thinking, and goodwill. Modern medicine, in contrast, believes that it has been robbed of all it does not possess. The conclusion to draw from this conflict of views should be obvious: I must part company with many of my peers when it comes to understanding why modern medicine's historical record of beer-guzzling strictures is clearer than the muddled pronouncements of its emissaries. My peers feel that modern medicine hates me for my determination and my aggressive stance for what is right. While this is certainly true, I avouch we must add that my goal is to get modern medicine to realize that thanks to its public-opinion molders, more people than ever now believe that taxpayers are a magic purse that never runs out of gold. Of course, if it insists on remaining an ignorant, uninformed, and ill-informed bribe-seeker, that's its prerogative.
To tolerate modern medicine's unregenerate, blathering perorations simply because they're not packaged and sold as meretricious is to shock and stampede the public into accepting total fascist tyranny. Here's an idea: Instead of giving modern medicine the ability to create some amoral, pseudo-psychological profile of me to discredit my opinions, why don't we fight on the battleground of ideas for our inalienable individual rights? If we do, we'll then be able to shed a little light on some of the ignorant prejudices that reside within its pea-sized brain. Sure, the things modern medicine does are wrong, bestial, sadistic, spleeny—you name it. But rebarbative, pushy bourgeoisie commonly succumb to its distortions, deceptions, and delusions. I, not being one of the many worthless, rude swaggerers of this world, do not. Rather, I take pride in placing blame where it belongs—in the hands of modern medicine and its venom-spouting lapdogs.
The ability to artistically
non legit this information is fake no way its real
Ok to the guy saying mitochondria are the source of a jedi's power thats midichlorians and its still bullshit and don't cure cancer please i know it sucks Ive had family die and am hereditarily susceptible to a few nasty strains myself but the world needs things like mortal diseases cigarettes and war to keep the population down i like not living in a box with six other people.
When is our convention? Vegas is calling. lol
Cancer is pathetic. Killing isn't elegant, or creative. It's not my style.
Has anyone tried singing to it?
Anyone who talks about a "simple cure" for cancer doesn't know anything about cancer, or even physiology. Cancer is a whole class of diseases. Some cancers are caused by exposure to chemicals, some by radiation, some by genetics, some by who knows what. Some are easy to cure. Some aren't. The writer of this piece could have easily done more than read a four-year-old press release on DCA, scribble a bunch of confused BS, and blame everything on Big Pharma. Research has been done on DCA since 2007, and it's not hard to find online. Spend five minutes with the Wikipedia article on this and you'll know ten times more about it than cgull8m seems to.
@ Yakov Smirnoff, I disagree, soviet russia destroyed my life worse than cancer.
Mitochondria are CELLS now? Oh man, I'm going to fail my graduate program in life sciences...
In all seriousness though, cancer is a generic name given to countless "diseases" that lead to uncontrolled growth (not neccessarily faster growth either). The major issue in cancer treatment is that even in the same tumour, there it thought to be a heterogenous assortment of "diseases", some of which may be resistant to any given treatment. This, coupled with the fact that our goal is to kill off these cells, leads to a scenario wherein treating cancer becomes a battle against evoluton (a difficult battle to win since Mother Nature can sample mutation space and optimize much better and faster than we can do). Yes, I suppose we can delay it and buy patients extra years, but personally, I don't think cancer is going to be one of those diseases we will just "cure".
P.S.: Mitochondria are NOT cells; they are thought to have originated from bacteria infecting early eukaryotic cells, but now they are most definitely ORGANELLE.
Lesson 1 in verifying research on the internet, simplified (an example):
Step one: Go to http://scholar.google.com/
Step two: Type some words in the search field that have to do with what you're researching. I typed in "dichloroacetate cancer".
Step three: Click on and read several studies listed. It doesn't matter if you don't know what all the words mean. If you can read English, hopefully you are able to tell the tone of any written piece (positive or negative). If several of them talk about cancer and dichloroacetate, and have a generally positively correlated tone, then chances are this article is telling the truth.
THE HYENA-SWINE STOLE THE CURE
No big deal...if you die you up to the spirit in the sky. That's where I'm gonna go when I die. When I die and they lay me to rest I'm gonna go to the place that's the best.
Damnit Jim, i'm a doctor, not miracle worker!!
A cure for cancer you say?
Let's celebrate this fine moment over a bowl of midget-soup!
If there's a Jew-hair in your soup, you have to excuse me, I was busy making pillows this morning.
I want you to start living as a gay woman
Did someone page me?
This in't really my field... Unless of course the cancer is causing involuntary spasms of the podiatric regions
WE ARE ZE UBERMENSCH
GET BEHIND ME DOCTOR
JAWOL
I like how people keep calling this an article. As far as I can tell this is just someone blogging about research they read about but clearly don't understand since they think mitochondria are cells... I know I keep mentioning it, but I'm just amazed by that. So yeah, some guy (or girl) read about this stuff, blogged about it, but because enough people don't have a solid background in science, now it's an article.
Google scholar is your friend, go hang out with it.
Stop spamming, you guys!
CONTINUE SPAMMING YOU GUYS
Has anyone used this name yet?
I'm not being funny here... But the article makes no sense. First of all a lot of the science mentioned is very very wrong. For example, the mitochondria is not a "cell" but an organelle within a human cell. Secondly, the mitochondria is not the "self-destruct" organelle, that would be the lysosome. Thirdly, just because it's worked on rats it does not mean it will necessarily work on humans. It still has a lot of testing to go through, such as on dogs and larger animals first, then a group of healthy humans, then a group of sick patients, then a double-blind trial (including a placebo) and a lot more before it can be deemed safe and effective enough to use. Stop believing everything the media tell you. It likes to cause a stir and get everyone to hate certain groups of people.
Cancer doesn't exist. I've done a doctorate on it.
Here, since you trollers are too lazy to look for yourself, here are some goddamned journal articles that talk about dichloroacetate and cancer! who cares if the author is an idiot and calls mitochondria "cells"! look at the research! gah!
http://www.springerlink.com/content/v80j18pq02p503
Here, since you trollers are too lazy to look for yourself, here are some goddamned journal articles that talk about dichloroacetate and cancer! who cares if the author is an idiot and calls mitochondria "cells"! look at the research! gah!
http://www.springerlink.com/content/v80j18pq02p503
Chemotherapy kills cancer cells but it is rarely a cure and dose is carefully monitored as the drug doesn't know the difference between healthy and cancerous cells but instead relies on the faster division of cancer cells to do the job. So what's the difference here?
I think it can still be much longer.
Yo, DCA should work
But instead of working with the stuff
I've been in the back with a pen and a pad trying to get this damn label off
This article smacks of incompetence and irresponsibility. They aren't remotely scientifically literate! The quote below is pretty revealing and anyone with a very basic biological knowledge will instantly know what is wrong with it.
"In human bodies there is a natural cancer fighting human cell, the mitochondria, but they need to be triggered to be effective."
I would've found a cure for cancer by now, but i found its... having my child, i just cant bring myself to kill my unborn son aswell.
U mad?
dr.davis you little shithead shut up
I've found the cure for cancer, I'll confirm it one I've finished my community service, unless I meet a hot girl in which case I won't, I'll just go off and make babies in a small town somewhere.
even if there's a cure to cancer.. the medical board will not get involved, the major pharmaceutics will not jump on the bandwagon either, major shift in money loss, trust me the world is very corrupt.
What you call cancer is actually Jenova Cells. You contract them from the life stream.
Yes, this is nice and all but I'm afraid the world's top researchers are far too busy with more pressing matters, like magic dick-growing pills, to bother with promising new cancer curing methods.
I've been reading your through all of your comments for a good hour and I've been laughing so hard this entire time. You guys should quit being doctors and start being comedians. At least then you would actually know what your doing.
swag.
I've written many letters about modern medicine's larcenous machinations. Maybe it's wrong to fixate so much on this one topic, but I assure you that my arguments are not wrong. Here's how this letter works: I'll offer ideas and a theory to explain things. You bring your own experiences to bear on the matter of modern medicine's brutish, rummy pleas, supplementing them where necessary with information from this letter. Together we will justify condemnation, constructive criticism, and ridicule of modern medicine and its lethargic, crafty bunco games. Isn't it odd that crabby theologasters, whose spiteful lifestyle will make conditions far worse than could ever have been the case without modern medicine's sullen efforts sooner or later, are immune from censure? Why is that? I'll tell you what I think the answer is. I can't prove it, but if I'm correct, events soon will prove me right. I think that modern medicine believes that it should be a given a direct pipeline to the National Treasury. The real damage that this belief causes actually has nothing to do with the belief itself but with psychology, human nature, and the skillful psychological manipulation of that nature by modern medicine and its ungrateful, untrustworthy pals.
I normally prefer to listen than to speak. I would, however, like to remind modern medicine that we must understand that the practice of tricking us into trading freedom for serfdom is delusional and refractory. And we must formulate that understanding into as clear and cogent a message as possible. Modern medicine says it's not scummy, but it's undeniably unrestrained and that's essentially the same thing. In modern medicine's limited horizon it itself is the important object. As a sequence to this self-conceit, it imagines that unprofessional analphabetics are inherently good, sensitive, creative, and inoffensive. We therefore need to explain to it that someone has been giving its brain a very thorough washing, and now modern medicine is trying to do the same to us.
Because I unfortunately lack the psychic powers that enable modern medicine to "know" matters for which there is no reliable evidence, I cannot forecast when it will next try to draw unsuspecting peculators into the orbit of militarism-oriented alarmism enthusiasts. But I can doubtlessly say that the morbid, scabrous self-proclaimed arbiters of taste and standards who work in modern medicine's lie factories keep telling us that it's okay to sacrifice our essential liberties on the altar of political horse-trading. But there's the rub; modern medicine's crime syndicate is a lecherous remnant of a peremptory past. This issue is coming to the fore because modern medicine should think about how its grievances lead the most untoward survivalists I've ever seen to perpetuate myths that glorify jingoism. If modern medicine doesn't want to think that hard, perhaps it should just keep quiet. Modern medicine makes it sound like it possesses infinite wisdom. That's the rankest sort of pretense I've ever heard. The reality is that modern medicine claims that children should get into cars with strangers who wave lots of yummy candy at them. I respond that drossy bohemians like it have no right to live under the protection of our laws.
Whatever modern medicine claims to the contrary, I'd like very much to respond to its claim that its deeds won't be used for political retribution. Unfortunately, taking into account modern medicine's background, education, and intelligence, I am quite sure that modern medicine would not be able to understand my response. Hence, let me say simply this: The reason modern medicine wants to discredit legitimate voices in the cronyism debate is that it's entirely doctrinaire. If you believe you have another explanation for its mumpish behavior, then please write and tell me about it.
Modern medicine's opinions are polyloquent. They're unnecessary. They're counterproductive. Whenever I encounter them I think that if we don't remove the modern medicine threat now, it will bite us in our backside before long. One last thing: Modern medicine thinks there should be a law prohibiting people from saying any harsh or unkind things against it.
There is a simple answer to the question of what to do about modern medicine's screeds. The difficult part is in implementing the answer. The answer is that we must introduce an important but underrepresented angle on modern medicine's horny jibes. Modern medicine's idolators argue that the world is crying out to labor beneath its firm but benevolent heel. These are the same improvident slubberdegullions who create an unwelcome climate for those of us who are striving to oppose our human vices wherever they may be found—arrogance, hatred, jealousy, unfaithfulness, avarice, and so on. This is no coincidence; money is not the solution to our modern medicine problem. Once we realize that, what do we do? The appropriate thing, in my judgment, is to show some backbone. I say that because its dream is to assume total control over society's means of production. Those with membership cards in modern medicine's imperium will be given whatever they want while the rest of us will be sent away empty-handed. In addition to being thoroughly unfair, such policies promote hurting others physically or emotionally. Furthermore, it is capable of only two things, namely whining and underhanded tricks.
I wouldn't even mention that I think that, in the main, it is ridiculous that I have to be faced with peculators whose grumpy memoranda are constantly treated with apathy if it weren't sincerely true. Modern medicine tries to make us think the way it wants us to think, not by showing us evidence and reasoning with us but by understanding how to push our emotional buttons. It's definitely astounding that modern medicine has found a way to work the words "cinematographical" and "ultrastandardization" into its grievances. However, you may find it even more astounding that malignant stumblebums of one sort or another are born, not made. That dictum is as unimpeachable as the "poeta nascitur, non fit" that it echoes and as irreproachable as the brocard that modern medicine says that "metanarratives" are the root of tyranny, lawlessness, overpopulation, racial hatred, world hunger, disease, and rank stupidity. Such verbal gems teach us that we must ensure that modern medicine receives its just deserts. As mentioned above, however, that is not enough. It is necessary to do more. It is necessary to ask modern medicine to rephrase its criticisms in a more reasoned way.
Some people think I'm exaggerating when I say that one often finds modern medicine in the company of irascible stuffed shirts or other unsavory characters. But I'm not exaggerating; if anything, I'm understating the situation. I overheard one of modern medicine's expositors say, "We should cast our lots with huffy tightwads." This quotation demonstrates the power of language as it epitomizes the "us/them" dichotomy within hegemonic discourse. As for me, I prefer to use language to criticize modern medicine's prevarications publicly for their formalistic categories, their spurious claims of neutrality, and their blindness to the abuse of private power.
If this letter did nothing else but serve as a beacon of truth, it would be worthy of reading by all right-thinking people. However, this letter's role is much greater than just to call for proper disciplinary action against modern medicine and its hired goons. Modern medicine's views no more represent the convictions of those of us here than Louis XVI's represented the sentiments of the French people. Regular readers of my letters probably take that for granted, but if I am to protect our peace, privacy, and safety, I must explain to the population at large that modern medicine's lamentations have kept us separated for too long from the love, contributions, and challenges of our brothers and sisters in this wonderful adventure we share together—life!
Modern medicine drops the names of famous people whenever possible. That makes it sound smarter than it really is and obscures the fact that if we contradict modern me
Here is a sourced article that actually makes sense: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/05/dichloro
Sure is summer in here
Kill Cancer.
it states the "mitochondria" as a cell, when it is PART of a cell, do not conclude your research with this article on the subject. it is for the most part well-intended and true, but the details are flawed and poorly-researched at best.
I cannot kill cancer traveler.
they cant even get their facts straight about glycolysis so this is a false report and they also dont know what causes cancer clearly. I dont blame the med companies for not investing in this.
The Phantom Blot: Hi, I suggest Ju search for "Jim Humble MMS" on google and youtube and try it! Read a little bit about it before you get too it! Good Luck!
Bless
derp
@KELLY
I am SO sorry for your loss. Losing your mother, especially so young, is terribly hard. I lost my dad when I was 19 in college.
My mom lost her eye to cancer when I was 15 - we were JOKING the next day, her anniversary, when Dad brought cognac into her hospital room - no champagne, might pop cork, put her other eye out! Cheers - here's mud in your eye!
When Daddy died (at age 49), we were sitting in living room reminiscing - IN STITCHES! Tears rolling down our cheeks, falling out of our chairs! On the way to cemetery, his little urn was in the big funeral home limo, while 6 of us were crammed into Mom's sub-compact station wagon. Mom said, "Isn't that just like your father, riding in luxury while we're like sardines." We arrived at gravesite shaking, tears rolling down our cheeks - not from grief but from laughter.
I have seen some very hard times, Kelly - including my younger sister's cancer, my husband in a serious car accident, my best friend kidnapped & murdered, my mother's death. In any situation, in any illness, any hardship, anything - humor serves you best. The old cliche is true - "laughter is the best medicine." My sense of humor is my parents' most valuable legacy to me.
I agree with Dr.mcburgenheimer DERP!
Hello everyone I am a real doctor with a degree from Harvard and think that this is fake because it looks like this was created 3 years ago and the cure would have been used more by now so if you belive this you're a DERP!
Dammit Jim I'm a Doctor not a blogger
If you have had enough crap
from that old Dr Quack,
don't take it in vain,
and please do refrain,
cause I've got the cure here,
so have no fear,
cause we have to stop treating marijuana smokers like criminals. Please decriminalize cannabis in your state or province. It's not a big deal
I knew there was something fishy about the whole ‘we’re still figuring out how to cure cancer’ thing.
Honestly the thing they should be saying is ‘we’re still figuring out how to get money out of your pockets with this cure for cancer’.
DEPOPULATION OR CULLING THE HERD,SAME THING.
Cancer? Not my specialty, neither is medicine. I'm really a cook by trade. Green eggs and ham anyone?
Cancer is killing me
This is one of the funniest science report I've ever read - mitachondria are not cells - mitachondria are elements within cells that are the power house of the cell. Glycolysis is how cells get their power - burning up glucose - If you were to use the chemical dicholoracetate to stop glycolysis, it would kill cancer cells.... but normal ones too. Not too sure from what scientific study this came from but this lil' scientist says, find the original work, because this is either grossly misinterpreted or someone's wild imagination ;)
God almighty this is so poorly written I can't even begin to work out what they are talking about half the time. This article at New Scientist is at least accurate. http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn10971
As far as I was aware when I was in research, the clinical trials are ongoing, although the results weren't too spectactular last I looked. DCA is also carcinogenic at higher doses in addition to causing nerve damage (it causes liver cancer in mice).
I think this story comes from the fact that DCA isn't patentable and it's human nature to assume that the miracle drug is being repressed cos pharmaceutical companies can't make money off of it, which is a bit bizarre given that it's already on the market and as such must be profitable!
Cosmic Rays, oddly enough do not create cancer but super powers, who knew?
Check this out. It sounds convincing to me.
In human bodies there is a natural cancer fighting human cell, the mitochondria, but they need to be triggered to be effective.
...the mitochondria, but they need to be triggered to be effective.
...need to be triggered to be effective.
Are my mitochondria not already in effect? No? Oh god, i'm gonna die!
lul watz?
This thread.
Wow. How insensitive can you people be? This article may contain incorrect info but there's no reason for you to pretend you're all doctors and make fun of this just to amuse yourselves. This is cancer, we're talking about. A widespread disease. You people probably have no idea how it is to lose a loved one to a stupid, incurable disease.
I'll have my engineers find out a way to burn Cancer's house down.
WITH THE LEMONS
For those of you who doubt that something like this could happen, this is nothing new.
A perfect example is H. pilori, the bacteria that causes a common type of ulcer. Before H. pilori was discovered, there was no cure. You were required to be on a drug for the rest of your life. After discovery, they realized all you needed was a few months of antibiotics.
Big pharma started filing lawsuits, taking people to court, doing all they could to block this research coming out, because it would render their drugs obsolete.
Luckily, in this case, big Pharma lost, but in general, there really is absolutely no interest in healing any of you, just in maximizing profit
so, after reading all of these comments, my vote is for:
"When this cancer hits 88 you're gonna see some serious shit."
by Doc Brown as Funniest Comment... thanks for all the loling, guys.
Gimme the news!
I gotta... bad case of lovin' ypu!
Citations, anyone? Really? "Canadian Scientists" is the closest thing to a cite in this whole article. And it looks like it could have been written by an elementary school student, by the grammar... WTF?
Dr. Davis didn't post the link you're criticizing him over, someone ELSE just prior to him did.
Have you guys seen Patch Adams? or Forrest Gump? Anyone wanna see Ikiru with me? I really liked Fight Club, but couldn't handle the short story. There's this really touching scene in Man on the Moon (1999) where Carey's character goes to a witch doctor for a cure to his neck cancer, and the doctor pulls a mass from Carey's abdomen! Total faker! /spoiler
Oops. I've said too much.
I really like the way this blog post points to an article from a few years ago and then other people comment with updated articles and for some reason only a few people actually get what's going on with all this research and media un-hype as well as the actual work that's being done in this area *deep breath* of cancer research, even though there are groups of supporters funding research and government agencies promoting research all we can say is no one's doing research or working towards funding this compound as a viable cure for some cancers that metabolize using halted mitochondrial processes *deep breath* when what all of us should be doing, instead of this silliness online, is writing our senators to get legislations passed and push the FDA along to a finalization of approval for specific use of this particular compound.
Seriously, as a general doctor with a PH.D. in everything, you should really take my opinions seriously. (But) I haven't said enough.
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It's okay, I'm gonna make you feel alright.
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Presenting Prescott pharmaceutical's newest product: Vaxacancer. It suffocates all the oxygen out of every cell in the body killing, among other things, the cancer cells.
Side effects may include...
This article is complete bullshit. Aerobic and anaerobic respiration both use glucose. Glycolysis is the process in which enzymes break a glucose molecule into two smaller pyruvate molecules, that are small enough to pass into mitochondria. The pyruvates then pass through the KREBS cycle. When oxygen is present as the final acceptor in the electron transport chain, 36 ATP molecules can be generated from one glucose molecule, but when no oxygen is present, the mitochondria carry out what is known as 'anaerobic respiration' and can only make 2 ATP molecules per glucose molecule.
To summarise, article is complete horseshit. Someone just took a bunch of keywords from a level 1 biology textbook, threw them in a blender, drank them, and then shat them out onto a webpage, and now a bunch of poor laypersons are being subjected to false hope in the form of this ridiculous bullshit.
I can't find any official press release from last week re this discovery (this article doesn't have a link to it), even from the University of Alberta Dept of Medicine website (last posting of perhaps positive case studies) was in 2010? Could this article have been copy/pasted from that time? If anyone could point me to the actual press release last week, I would be grateful.
If, in fact, it IS true (which I hope we hear sooner than later), I heard a similar story re pharmaceutical company research. The BBC World Service story I heard discussed why it is so hard to find a cure for malaria even though scientists are so close (the theory being more pharmaceutical profit is to be made in investing in research to cure, for example, male pattern baldness than malaria, which mostly kills poor people, so as a company's key goal is enrich its investors/shareholders, funding will be put into the baldness research so the cure to malaria remains unsolved).
I can't find any official press release from last week re this discovery (this article doesn't have a link to it), even from the University of Alberta Dept of Medicine website (last posting of perhaps positive case studies) was in 2010? Could this article have been copy/pasted from that time? If anyone could point me to the actual press release last week, I would be grateful.
Re those who are challenging the DCA cure as being possible, here are reliable websites on the pros and cons of it (NOT wikipedia):
The initial 2007 research it is based on
http://www.dca.med.ualberta.ca/Home/Updates/2007-0
The BBC in 2007 cited the pros and cons of DCA, and said doctors were awaiting the results of "clinical trials" (which is what was just published last week...if it was?) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6506113.stm
The American Cancer Association in 2009 also said "awaiting results of clinical trials"...so...wasn't last week "a result?"
http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/TreatmentsandSideE
The Canadian Cancer Association's website in Nov 2010 remained sceptical of the treatment and it has no posting about it from last week:
http://www.cancer.ca/Alberta-NWT/About%20us/Media%
This is the last update on the website where they said DCA trials were happening (University of Alberta clinical trials information in 2010)--wouldn't this be where the official press release would be from last week?
http://www.dca.med.ualberta.ca/Home/Updates/2010-0
Update from US National Library of Medicine Feb 2011 on DCA (most up to date info on DCA studies I have found):
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20920954
If, in fact, it IS true (which I hope we hear sooner than later), I heard a similar story re pharmaceutical company research. The BBC World Service story I heard discussed why it is so hard to find a cure for malaria even though scientists are so close (the theory being more pharmaceutical profit is to be made in investing in research to cure, for example, male pattern baldness than malaria, which mostly kills poor people, so as a company's key goal is enrich its investors/shareholders, funding will be put into the baldness research so the cure to malaria remains unsolved). Let's hope that this situation will not hold true for successful cancer treatments; profit or not: find the cure...
Justjance (1st poster),
"CROSS"??? That's the word that comes to mind? So if there's a cure for cancer out there but we can't get it you are "cross" about it? Geez, just use normal words like ANGRY or MAD, WTF is with "cross"???
Great, people keep making Wilson's job easier. What about the poor, cranky cripple?
Everybody just needs to calm down.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed
over 2000 papers on DCA since 1949
So the proper headline should be "and no one bothered to check before making up a bullshit headline"
Thank you CDN Skeptic, your comments appeared after I started tracking links down!
After having drinks with Isaac, Gopher, and Julie McCoy, Vicki and I have decided that these posts are a bunch of jibber-jabber and Captain Stubing would agree. Although the clinical trials look legit.
Dr. Octagonapus!! BLAH!!!!!!! BLAH!!!!!!
I am a nurse and this article is crap. Actually, I am a hospice nurse and this article is still crap
Regardless of how poorly written this article is, the study is real. Here's an update from last year. http://www.dca.med.ualberta.ca/Home/Updates/2010-0
Exciting stuff! 'Studies to find safe doses of DCA in humans are now under way. One study is looking at DCA for cancer that has spread or come back. Another is looking at whether DCA can boost the effectiveness of radiation treatments. There are also U.S. studies looking at toxicities and how to reduce DCA side effects.'
How can somebody trust an article, which claims that mitochondria are cells?!
Hope is ALL a cancer patient has. Hope that the people doing the research are working hard to fine a legitimate cure. Hope that it will become available before you die of Cancer. Hope that the Cure will be mass produced to help All of mankind without regard to income, or social level. If a universal cure is discovered, it would only be legitimate for the discoverer to be paid for his or her or there time Researching, the developers of the product to be produced to make the cure, the marketing to get the word out, the money for packaging, the money for transporting, delivery costs. These expenses all have to be accounted for, it's not just a pipe dream to think one day you will wake up and OMG the cure is everywhere. Gog help us, but with the Internet communication, it is a viable tool to squash rumors, give ideas to individuals, spread the educational results. Let's keep talking and one day we will have a cure...
The true cure for cancer is ascention to a higher plain of existence.
This is indeed a superb way to cure cancer
It's called research Mary. UOA has links for actual trials and studies as recent as last year (regardless of this horrible article). http://www.dca.med.ualberta.ca/Home/Updates/2010-0
It's not crap...just this article is.
SEKKS!
This "Hubpages" website is neither a credible science site or a credible news site. Don't believe everything you read, people. This reeks of complete and utter nonsense..
It's the beginning of the end.
This isn't where i parked my car?
I have absolutely no credentials or knowledge of a scientific basis to comment appropriately on this article.
However i do enjoy throwing my own feces at native birds
Oh my children....my my my.... Has our own self created dis-ease taken over the best of us? Many of the posts on this page prove that we are not only riddled with dis-ease, but we produce it, and then aim at will to produce more dis-ease/discomfort for anyone else.
We seem to have lost strength in ourselves. Our innate light grows dim. Are we truly seeking a quick fix answer, pill, procedure to generations worth of knowledge? Do we truly wish for our health and happiness to come in a pretty plastic package, injected by a stranger in a white coat in a windowless room?
The answer to the health of your physical body is quite simple. Allow it to live it's natural cycle. Your body is an organism made of regenerative cells. Allow your body to regenerate it's cells! As quickly and effectively as possible! This of course poses a threat to the overweight and obese population of the world as the more cells you have to regenerate the less effectively your body as an organism can regenerate. Think about it...
Rather than accepting your fate as a cancer-ridden, tumerous organism-why not take hold of the wheel and steer yourself away from the beaten path leading towards self-destruction. Eat healthy nutrient rich food, excersise, eat healthy food, excersise, repeat. Eventually after following this process and teaching your children this process (which to them is probably a no-brainer)you will be a much healthier and regenerated organism and family and you will be happier as a result. Health all around. There is no pill that can fix our own self-abuse against our bodies. Look at what you eat! Can you pronounce, much less understand all the nasty chemicals and potentially toxic substances you ingest on a day to day basis? Heaven forbid any of those toxic substances blend with other toxic substances after being ingested into your organism to form even more toxic and possibly deadly substances. If you truly care about your health and the health of your family you will be knowledgeable and aware of what you/they ingest.
Cancer is not hereditary. It's not passed down in our genes. Our dietary and health habits on the other hand generally are passed down from our parents and those surrounding us. We don't have to fear inevitable dis-ease, we just need to take better care of ourselves and let our bodies literally sweat the bad stuff out.... Because that is what we are built to do. Now, get off the couch, get out of your chair and DO something about it already. There is not a magic pill to counter-act a generation of self-abuse against your body-the one and only vessel that will serve you on this lifetime journey. Our existence as intelligent organisms in this universe is so vastly improbable... But why so vastly taken for granted??! Your body is just like any fine new vehicle. Care for it, change the oil, feed it quality fuel, check the tires, start it up regularly, etc. You are an engine, how well do you run?
May I suggest.... Since gas prices have hit ridiculous prices... Perhaps we might consider using our own engines rather than man-made engines?! We burn our fuel completely clean (which also seems to be an issue right now) and hell it would also allow the healthy regeneration of our cells to continue. Ride a bike... Or at least next time you see someone out on the road riding a bike give them their space and the the respect they deserve and if nothing else feel fortunate that they are sacrificing their "ration" of mother earths blood which will be auctioned off to you at ridiculous prices.
Really America... You are making yourselves sick. No, there's no magic pill for it. You either have to learn from the mistakes of the past, or follow the same fate. Hmmmm. I for one can say I've learned exactly how NOT to live my life by the unfortunate destruction of others.
But how many people actually want to see it this way, we do not want to take responsibility for ourselves. We've been taken care of for so long that we don't know how to do it on our own. I recommend anyone who cares for their health and happiness and that of their family's will learn. Know where your food comes from (and no, I don't meant the pretty plastic packages in the food stores.) Heck, buy a chicken and grow some tomatoes in your backyard if that's what it takes.
Sincerely, MotherNature
So my question is why aren't we doing anything about this? This could seriously help out our economy by selling it to other countries!
This distraction is excruciatingly annoying. I find it very disheartening that this receives funding when my grant proposals for fear related research are consistently rejected. After all, we only want to cure cancer because we're AFRAID of it.
For those of you with advanced cancer... If this inexpensive chemical indeed has no known dangerous side-effects and you're dying of cancer, you might as well give it a try if it is purported to destroy cancer. The reactions of some of the 'skeptics' and pharmanazis here are hilarious. I could care less about their fake purported status-quo or 'expert opinions'. Go get some dignity and a life.
Man, it is funny to read the comments on here. Considering its an unsourced internet article, I'm gonna go ahead with the bullshit call.
why are there comments from 3 years ago?..
Hey! You shut your whore mouth, Mother Nature!
Sorry, I can't trust a story that calls the mitochondria a cell, its an organelle.
As a Bio major, this article was hard to read due to the many errors in information here. One example, mitochondria is not a cell. Another, Glycolysis has nothing to do with apoptosis... Just wow
Really worries me that so many people are using wikipedia to back up their arguments... Use articles with a bit of credence ffs.
have some common sense people. there are comments from three years ago on here, if this was a real treatment then someone, somewhere would've heard or read about it and it would be treating people right now.
@ Dr. Davis,
May I use your comment in my AP Biology course?
Also, what university/institution currently employs your services?
Thanks,
B.
Why did I actually bother to read through a lot of these comments...? FML
Fairly sure someone's already said this, but I'm not reading all the comments to check.
a mitochondria is not a "cell" it is an organelle inside a cell.
To those of you who have made me laugh...THANK YOU!! To those of you who have tried to make this a serious discussion, I thank you as well.
I have but one observation...wiki is NOT a reliable source of information...ANYONE can put ANYTHING on there!
Only doctors are allowed to post here. Now move along we have important trolling to do.
lets think from a wider scope.
If governments(which is all about owners of money&power ) can create a modern slave
a kind of slave i mean educated for about 25 years and specialized to be a slave in a part of the global system we have
a kind of slave in its slavery time, eating shits like McDonnalds and CocaCola, which cause health issues in long term, dying with cancer which means giving back all the money back to the owners. . .
a kind of slave that even doesnt aware that he is a slave.
a kind of slave that thinks its freedom.
what can an owner would want more than this ?
LOL Reading these comments has made my life.
The website for the Alberta research facility stated that they would be doing human testing trials in the spring of 2007! That was 4 years ago!!! I know it takes awhile collect data and research the findings...but 4 years!!! They're bound to have some conclusion!
Your grammar has made mine! (@ Dr. Rain Zilla)
Aw I got burned. I didn't even say anything mean! :o
For those of you looking for answers......i suggest you stop looking to the medical journals and science. Dr. Chopra and Kelly.....you are the only ones making any sense at all. there have been MANY cures for cancer but our FDA and big-pharma won't allow it. cancer is so much bigger than any of us want to admit and we're looking in all the wrong places. God gave our bodies everything we need to cure ourselves......we just don't want the answers because it's hard work and it won't make anyone any money. I would like to suggest that anyone who wants to cure their cancer avoid medicine and research Dr Gerson and Renee Caisse. Funny that they're both dead (not by natural causes) and their research discredited by "science". and you wonder why you can't find supporting articles and research for this study? I suggest that most of you are joking around about this because you or someone you love hasn't been diagnosed with cancer. If you had been......you wouldn't be so closed minded like the medical profession is....they get paid to waste your money.
This is a drug that is a by-product of CHLORINE (used in World War I and the Iraq War)! It is highly corrosive and toxic, and it has zero health benefits - certainly not "curing" cancer.
Not only was this tested on animals in the lab showing an INCREASE of tumors [note: I do not support vivisection], but this was tested on CHILDREN -- "all 15 of the children receiving DCA experienced significant nerve toxicity without any evidence of benefit from the medication."
Why no one takes notice? Because this is a piece of crap chemical that failed enough clinical tests not to get approved yet. Perhaps in the future the data can be falsified enough to make it through the FDA, though.
If you want a true cure for cancer, the secret lies in using plants as medicine and a raw plant-based diet, i.e., the treatments utilized by Max Gerson, Jethro Kloss and Gabriel Cousens, et al.
So if the biggest problem with cancer cells is that they infect others and don't die, that means cancer should make us invincible. Why cure it? Spread the invulnerability!
Quote:
Dichloracetate has never been tested as anti cancer drug but only as medication for some rare metabolic disease. Also it’s bee used on animals for their cancers and caused paralysis, death and testicular shrinkage. As metabolic medication DCA causes numbness, pain and gait disturbance.
shit yeah hell yeah..
Just listen to dub with some good weed...
keeps all tha baddies away...
:)
We cured cancer hundreds of years ago here in the federation. My medical tricorder will blast it in a second.
I think it's funny that anyone would consider Wikipedia a reliable source...
Have some common sense people....does anyone REALLY think that big pharmacutical companies REALLY care about the welfare of humanity as opposed to money and profits...you don't know capitalism and you need a healthy injection of cynacism! Cancer and AIDS are big drug companies cash cows! Do you think for a minute that they would allow a cure for those to see the light of day? Researchers do not have the money to launch anything.....sooooo, these companies often buy the rights to something just so they can sit on it. Look at big oil and all of they technologies they have bought from inventors and researchers just so they can sit on it!
If you think big drug companies would want to a cure for anything to see the light of day....as opposed to making profits treating things....you fail to realize that a cure is one and done....while treatment is often for life....AND you are delusional concerning all things capitalism. If you would put anything past these EVIL companies....then my friends....I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd be interested in selling you....along with my ocean front property in Arizona!
As for the IDIOTS aharing their special brand of idiocy in the form of silly posts to this thread....get a life! Do your parents realize that you are playing around on the computer again? Or is this simply a sad and lame attempt to cry for attention?
Dr Davis is a complete idiot, the Dr Davis that commented near the top of this thread. I feel sorry for any of your students as they are being taught by someone who is mildly retarded. I would love to know how you actually passed a PhD defense and can say that glycolysis requires oxygen and it occurs in the mitochondria. Pull your head out of your ass and please read a high school science textbook. Glycolysis is anaerobic (for Dr Davis this means it doesnt need oxygen) and its oxidative phosphoyrlation that occurs in the mitochondria. If you had read this bullshit article probably written by someone like yourself you would have realized you were fucked. I hate that there are even people like you out in the world, you give actual scientist a bad name.
I musta took a wrong turn at Albuquerque.
None of the morons before me seem to realize that the 1st few comments are 3 years old....
And the dumbass in chief seem to be N.E. Wright who shared this 3 days ago on facebook.
LOL
Oh, if you try the link in the article, one leading to original article on studentprintz.com is dead and if it is that old...reason we didn't hear about it is that's BS !
Can't even find it with a search on their site so this is all BS
HERE ARE THE TRIAL RESULTS by the same UNIVERSITY:
I agree 100% with cheesy.
The first thing we are taught about doing research in HIGHSCHOOL is WIKIPEDIA IS NOT A RELIABLE SOURCE! Anyone with half a brain can go on wikipedia and write in whatever bullshit they want. I was doing research on Alexander Graham Bell and I went to wikipedia and some smartass wrote that he's the person you talk to when you call the Bell helpline. So the fact that you "doctors" are using wikipedia as a reliable source makes me laugh.
As someone who actually knows a large number of cancer researchers, I can assure you that nobody who talks about how big pharma is conspiring to make you sick knows what they're talking about.
First of all, most of the research into cancer is done by universities and hospitals, not R&D departments at pharmaceutical companies.
Pharmaceutical companies are corporations, and thus profit driven. This leads to all kinds of greedy practices and problematic behavior. Ask anyone doing medical research or in the medical field, they'll be the first to agree. But they are bound by a lot of strict regulations, and despite what some paranoid morons are telling you, they're not conspiring to keep you sick.
Cancer has been a huge killer for pretty much every species (including sharks) since life began. There was never a time when humans lived at one with nature, able to magically heal themselves through natural naturalness.
Cancer is what happens when your OWN CELLS go out of whack and start growing willy nilly. That makes it difficult to kill, as you're basically trying to kill off part of yourself, without killing yourself.
You can try crystals and praying and whatever else you want but the fact is that people who go with modern western medicine have a better chance than anyone else of survival. That's a straight up fact.
I study cancer biology, and honestly, this is article is very poorly written. The author clearly has no idea what he/she is talking about. If this were the only way cancer cells occurred, then the world would be a much better place.
Someone rubbed my lamp today and their first wish was that I come to this website and read this article. Their second wish was for a pair of Skechers Shape ups(unrelated and a totally dumb wish imo). Their 3rd wish was that I comment on this article and give my input so here it is:
I'm not a doctor, I'm a Genie. I can make you rich or make someone fall in love with you, but I can't say for sure how cancer works. I'm not omniscient okay, I'm just a Genie who's trying to make ends meet. Life ain't ways inside the bottle, and with all this pressure on me to grant wishes and make peoples trivial lives more meaningful and materialistic, I can't even find time to spend with my wife and kids. Things are hard right now and even though I have nothing pertinent to add, I felt like I had no choice but to add a comment because hey, I'm a Genie after all and I grant wishes and the guys last wish was for me to post a comment okay SO SUE ME!!
But don't really sue me, I've seen a few lawyers on here adding comments so hopefully they won't take that literally and come after me. Brotha just tryna pay the bills....
I've only had one biology class on cells, but even I can tell this article makes no sense. First, mitochondria are not cells, they're organelles. Their main purpose is to produce ATP from glucose and oxygen; how could they "switch" to glycolysis when they lack oxygen? Glycolysis is part of how how cells breathe in normal conditions, and oxygen is needed to trigger the process. If a cell runs out of oxygen it will breathe through transfer of electrons, and the mitochondria are not even involved. What does cancer have to do with that anyway? Cancer is just damaged cells ignoring the checkpoints that should prevent them from undergoing mitosis, allowing them to divide again and again. Energy is still being made in the mitochondria and the state of the tissue around the tumor doesn't change the rate of division of damaged cells, "glycolysis turned off" or not, regardless of what the produced lactic acid does (it chews through tissues? where did you get that?). And how would stopping glycolysis (if you could even do that for just cancerous cells, which sounds ridiculous as glycolysis is a normal process in all cells, as far as I know) trigger apoptosis? The cell does not know it is damaged so there is no reason for it to commit suicide. Either you didn't understand what this DCA does or this is all a big joke. The only reference you link to doesn't even explain what this drug does. Where is the actual study?
Whether this treatment is accurate or not, why would they be interested? When there so much profit to be made from misery.
Dichloroacetate. Used for metabolic disorders. Suitable for cancer? Will need to run tests. Must notify Shephard. May use Garrus instead. No no no. Turians allergic to Dichloroacetate. Not an option, not an option!
Just as a heads up, the pharmaceutical companies will be just putting out their drugs as generic drugs, doing away with brand names doing away with competition because you can't copy a generic item. therefore dominating the money. this will have an adverse affect on your health insurance. you will see a large increase in two years.
From the study...
No conclusions can be made on whether the drug is safe or effective in patients with this form of brain cancer, due to the limited number of patients tested by the study's leads Drs Michelakis and Petruk. Researchers emphasize that use of DCA by patients or physicians, supplied from for-profit sources or without close clinical observation by experienced medical teams in the setting of research trials, is not only inappropriate but may also be dangerous. The U of A results are encouraging and support the need for larger clinical trials with DCA. This work is also one of the first in humans to support the emerging idea that altering the metabolism of tumors is a new direction in the treatment of cancer, Michelakis and Petruk said.
You're welcome.
K-K-K-K-K-K-YEAAAH!!!
Thank you for sharing this interesting information. I am a medical student, and aiming in presenting my notes on a similar topic in biochemistry and physiology research. I hope europe will finally pay attention to those efforts. Medicine can be so simple - with just that little bit of attention!
this is ludicrous!
Obviously the only real cure isn't to cause the cells to die on command, but live FOREVER, in SPITE of the cancer!
That's why my T-Cell research is so critical!
DCA can cause nerve toxicity, with my T-Cells, there's practically no risk at all.......
whats the point of curing cancer if the causes still exist?
Shut up, Ozwell, my G cells are obviously a superior treatment!
WEEEEEEEEE WILL WEEEEEEEE WILL ROCK YOU! boom boom tch boom boom tch
Here is some actual documented information as well as news coverage.
This is the key to my father's research! We can finally isolate the genetic code, this is what I have been looking for!
Reading this is actually painful. The author obviously lacks any understanding of the mechanisms at work, evidenced by the fact he refers to mitochondria as 'cancer killing cells' *facepalm* Or that glycolysis is 'less effective [at killing cancer]' Glycolysis is required for mitochondria to function, and both glycolysis and mitochondrial respiration are mechanisms for production of adenosine tri-phosphate, not for killing cancer. Reading this, I can't escape the feeling that the entire article is a poorly-researched excuse for a generic tirade against the medical establishment. The fact that the drug isn't patented should result in more companies producing and selling it, not less- just like aspirin or paracetamol, which are produced by virtually every drug company under different trade names since their patents ran out.
wow thats uncouraging to now have a positive way out of cancer. alot of people in the future will not have to suffer or die because of this awful desease. theres hope and prayers that are going to be answered now.thank you for this research thats life altering to many people.
@"sherlock"
The first thing you learn in *college*, Sherlock, is that while directly using wikipedia is not viable in a research setting, it's not the festering bucket of unreliability it was at its birth, and it's perfectly okay to begin research there. If you go down under the reference section, there is typically a long list of links to cited sources that have been used throughout the article. If you're lost on a research topic, wikipedia is actually a good place to find references to anything from academic articles to electronic newspaper articles.
Also, has anyone invoked Godwin's law yet? I see the Nuremburg trials were mentioned.
Mein Fuhrer! I can Walk!!!!
I love you all so very, very much.
As long as I can eat the cancer cells, I'm satisfied >:)
If we're gonna fight cancer....
I need a weapon
I am a doctor of philosophy from Edinburgh, a doctor of law from Christ's College, a doctor of medicine from Harvard. My friends, out of courtesy, call me 'Doctor'. So I say that the only true cure for cancer lies in my mystical eastern herbs!
You're all a bunch of MISFITS!
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/CancerPreventionAndTr
"Long term use (a year or more) of high doses of DCA has been shown to increase risk of liver cancer in mice."
How many times do I have to tell you? I DON'T have a problem with stims! Why can't you people understand?! That does it! I can't take it anymore. I'm going on walkabout.
This article is rife with scientific inaccuracies and is very misleading. Basically this article pulls up research from 2007 , twists the results to sound more amazing than they actually are (omg, they killed cancer cells in lab experiments and mice? That's never happened before! /sarcasm off.) and uses it as a soapbox to speak out against the evil that are pharma companies. This product IS being used in cancer research, as a simple pubmed search of "dichloroacetate" and "cancer" will reveal, and would be very informative for anyone interested. Dichloroacetate is also being used as "non-traditional anti-cancer therapy" in some patients who are non-responsive to traditional therapies, but that seems to be on a case-by-case basis.
This article is PURE BS!!!!! Clues? ESL- level writing, the flinging around of biological terms without the slightest idea of their meanings, and the glib treatment of wjhat sould be the biggest news story of all time, were it the truth. Don't get suckered in, people!!!!! This article is dishonest, untrue, and downright cruel to those suffereing frm cancer, who might be given false hope. This is a new low for humanity.
You know.. its rather laughable that even though the JOURNALIST is not a bio expert, people automatically trash this science even though there are many many links provided to back it up. Furthermore, its even more frightening that people will automatically toss this idea out if they find one word wrong or an opinion doesn't line up with the stars correctly.
It seems we all would rather sleep better at night by putting down folks that bust their arses for little money to research REAL cures of cancer in favor of corporate backed talking heads and advertisements on TV. How about you do a little thinking on your own?
Whether the science is correct or not, I can not say. I know a good amount of biology, but you know what.. I never handled and experimented with cells this way under a microscope and I give it a good bet noone here has either.
So rather than bickering like stupid kids about who's right or who can crack a better joke about subject matter that just might save your life or a loved one's life,
how about you all grow up just a little?
We as cancer survivors,dont want to read your stupid coments,maybe you all are student doctors and still in training,your not the ones with this disease,so we will try everything to be cure from this disease!!!
Don't I get a say in this, guys? :c
NO!!!!
Sielie its verrry presumptive and idiotic of u to assume none of us have cancer. How do u know this? Are you my anus?
We as cancer survivors DOOOOO want to read your wise coments,maybe you all are wonnnderrrfullll doctors and still in poopy pants,your are the ones with this disease,so we wont try everything to be cure from this disease!!!
I am also a doctor.
There have been many studies on this in the past 10 years. It can be functional in in vitro animal models but clinical trials show variable primary effects and deleterious side effects. This is no big secret. It is not at this moment a functional cure for any cancer in humans. Go to pubmed (NIH database) and search DCA cancer.
ANNNDDDD I am also A Doctor's AYYYYNOUUSS!!!!!!!!! Yayyyy meeee!!!! I want to put my peepee in your poopoo!!!!
BTW.. a cure for most forms of cancer has already been discovered in the 1920s. I invite you all to look up Dr. Max Gerson and chew on that for a while.
Lets see how many small-minded comments can spring up from that one.
Ah! I see you have the machine that goes PING!
Eat healthy and exercise people.
I cure things all the time, oh, look there. I just cured boredom. I spend many hours daily also inventing things. Oh, what is this? I've been working on this rainbow injection unit.
I like to fart in the bathtub and eat the bubbles!
All I wanna know is if I get a tan and a string bikini, will The Monarch still love me? Will he!!
What gives this article credibility? Where is the source?
Ill snuggle you back to heallth. SNUGGLER yell if you need some helppppp.
We just lost a very dear friend to cancer this afternoon. She was only 58.
Genevieve Lacroix, what was your first clue? This article's only credibility is that the laws of physics still apply to the odor of cow manure emanating from it and the author.
Why did Patrick die? Huh? Why didn't I suggest all the holistic and alternative treatments possible to save this great man's life? Why do I and all doctors like me suck so hard? Why!
It may seem like pharmaceutical companies are the big bad evil of the world, and yes they do make a lot of money, however, a lot of money goes into making just one single drug.
The preclinical stages of drug development last on average 4.3 years, costing $381million. The drugs then enter into the clinical stages which takes a further 6.6years and cost around $487million. Only 71% of drugs that make it to phase1 clinical trial will enter into phase 2 and only 31% of those (thats 22% overall) will make it to phase 3. Therefore the cost of the drugs need to cover the development of not only the drugs to make it to market, but also the drug that fail in the early stages. After phase 3 clinical trials, the drugs have to pass the new drug regulation which takes a further 1.3 years. So the total cost of drug development is $ 868 million.
That is the cost of a single drug to make it to market, there are thousands if not millions of drugs that fail before they get to market which cost pharmaceutical companies billions each year. If they don't charge what they do for drugs, they won't have the money to invest in the development of new drugs.
Basically my message here is don't be so quick to slam the pharmaceutical companies, yes it is a big money making industry, but there needs to be a lot of money in it!
Doesn't surprise me. I discovered that the pyramids were landing sites for alien spaceships, and did anyone pay attention to that?
Hey, I found this back stage. It's an over-sized hat. It's funny.
So, be careful. Everyone here should take a look at the wikipedia entry for DCA, which includes some interesting commentary by the doctors who were involved in the human trials. It also notes that they haven't done a full-bore multi-thousand person test, which would give more interesting results than the 5 people actually tested. If your life is about to end due to terminal inoperable brain cancer, I recommend talking to your cancer specialist about this.
The article above states that DCA is "widely available". If this is true, why does anyone care that no major pharmaceutical company is interested in making it? Unless hubpages.com has a different meaning for "widely available" than I do, it seems to me that I should be able to get the stuff OTC. If it's off-patent and truly widely available, it shouldn't cost much compared to other cancer treatments.
Hey, I found this back stage. It's an over-sized hat. It's funny.
It's cancer. It's always cancer.
You guys are all idiots, this article has no credible sources for it's information.
Emily Sams is totally correct of course. We here at evil #4 enjoy investing ridiculous amounts of money to test new, experimental drugs for the people with minimum emphasis put on tripling or quadrupling said investment. Our number one duty here is to find cures for diseases which keep us in business. After all, a disease free world is evil pharmaceutical company #4's first priority.
wake up
This research has been published in the journal 'Cancer Cell'. An article on this from the UofA website itself be found here: http://www.dca.med.ualberta.ca/Home/Updates/2007-0
Hey, I found Nancy's pants backstage. It's an over-sized britches. It's funny, but if you wanna be performin you gotta get the form in to the foreman of performin, dont forget the foreskin.
All you morons complaining about no credible sources haven't bothered to read the comments and don't have a clue that the article is 4 years old. Then again, the second part of article title applies to people like you.
We have just discovered that 'Dancing With the Stars' causes idiocy.
This is ridiculous. If this was really a real cure for cancer, we'd have chemists synthesizing (or just buying, it's not hard to get) some DCA and curing their friends and family with cancer. The truth is, this is probably just another false source of hope.
Hey, 'biology student'. Better hit those books really hard.. with your head.
You say potato I say potatoe. What makes up a cell? Mitochondria ARE cells. You can call them orgonelle's, you can call them your mom for all I care. They fit the definition of a cell. They contain DNA, they are independent of a cell. Semantics don't change the facts of the article, only clueless biology student morons do.
This looks shopped. I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.
I hope it is a real hope for the people with cancer. I am taking about current patients not in far away future which will happen one day in hundreds years to come...
This just in - pixels hide in shops and stupid comments.
Also, and I forgot to mention, I have a thing for little boys!
It appears that the link I posted in my last comment isn't working. The article on the UofA website can be found here: http://www.dca.med.ualberta.ca/Home/index.cfm , and was actually published March 15, 2007. This research has been around for a long time.
Their most recent article discussing the clinical trials was published May 12, 2010, and can be found here: http://www.dca.med.ualberta.ca/Home/Updates/2010-0
newsflash - cancer researchers discover Dance Dance Revolution and have made a link between dubstep and dumbasses. More to follow.
This article is totally bogus. Nothing makes sense and the terms are completely used inappropriately. The author has no idea what they are taking about.
This article is extremely misinforming. There are plenty of studies being run because pharmaceuticals don't really effect global research. Currently dichloroacetate is being studied in humans. And this is in no way a cure all, infact it helps tumor growth in some cases "http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20537792". So all in all everyone needs to chill the fuck out.
this is what happens when a discussion allows people to post comments without having to register and when everyday people think they know everything about biology.
For the people thinking this is a conspiracy theory and that the cure for cancer is being purposely kept from people that are dying; It must be the most elaborate and well coordinated conspiracy that has ever been pulled off in the entire history of the planet!! Or you're just stupid and don't understand anything.
I can't believe I followed this link from someone posting it on their facebook, I feel pretty stupid for falling for the ol "cure for cancer" link and I hope all of you do too.
"People who don't know nothing", do in fact (according to the laws of English grammar), know something.
How could you people be so dense? And why has this suddenly gone viral like it was a recent article? The internet is an amazing thing, the answers are out there if you bother to look, and it makes keeping such an elaborate scheme under wraps damn right impossible.
First, I must confess I am not a doctor. However, I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
All those who've linked to Wikipedia- dismissed for even daring to pretend Wikipedia data has any truth or accuracy within it.
As to cancer, it's a sensitive topic due to it's humor and mirth. Some people don't enjoy laughing, and thus when making fun of silly old cancer, they get grumpy.
Those suffering from cancer have an INSANELY easy solution: Die! Come on... you're probably up in years anyways- if you're anywhere near 40 your life is basically over anyways. Just kick the bucket, go on to the afterlife, have a beverage or two, and then come back to life- possibly here on Earth, or perhaps in another time, dimension or universe. Frankly, odds are you'll come out better- you could be the next Jessica Alba, or Jessica Biel, or Alexandra Ambrosio. I mean... you come back to Earth as a hot woman, you've got it made- people will throw money at you your whole life and you can have as much sex as you want, instead of spending your life alone and miserable- or with a hideous compromise fatty.
Ultimately, as someone wise said far, far above... until the United States as Nationalized Health Care that takes away the for-profit nature of our system that kills thousands of Americans per year and prevents millions from accessing the treatments and care they require, we'll continue to die when we could have lived. Cancer, mental health, infections, flu, you name it- Americans are dying because a handful of people (*Koch Brothers, cough*) are banking as much of the rest of everyone's money as they can, and doing nothing Good with it.
*Seriously*
You want a cure for cancer- you want actual progress that helps Americans and the rest of the world- you vote 100 percent party ticket Democrat in each and every election. Because they're the Rebel Alliance, the good guys, the only ones fighting for the poor, middle class and true American values. It won't happen overnight- but in two-three decades the progress made would be enormous, saving tens of millions and making our nation thrive and once again be a beacon to the world.
This journalist needs to find another job.
"In human bodies there is a natural cancer fighting human cell, the mitochondria, but they need to be triggered to be effective. Scientists used to think that these mitochondria cells were damaged and thus ineffective against cancer."
Anyone who can write this and keep a straight face has no business writing about science.
dense people who ruin the fun need to unwrap their own schemes and right the impossible damned article. Shop Smart. Shop S-Mart.
Cant someone just try the metabolic drugs and see what happens? I know they wont be injected into mitochondria but maybe something good will come from it? Especially if there are not side effects to it, I think someone with cancer should go for it with a doctor that is willing to follow the progress and note what happens..
Regardless of whether or not this is a cure, people should stop complaining and do something to help the funding. Write a letter to your senator or representative. Pharmaceutical companies can't spend the 2-300 million dollars to get this compound the rest of the way to market they would go out of business. The funding for projects like this comes from donations and most importantly NIH. NIH already funds this research, but they certainly can't fund it with the budget they get. Thanks to George Bush's serious cuts into money for research grants from the NIH have returned from their all time low. Get out there at push your politicians for better funding for science and reserch!
Everyone should inject human growth hormones and eat massive amounts of Jack-In-The-Box whilst channel surfing. Oh wait a second, too late......ok, next idea.Let's ask McDonald's to make a bigger burger than their already horrifying 'Quarter Pounder'.....what's that? A third pounder?!.....hmmmm.
People, stop trying to find a cure for something that is quite easily remedied through preemptive steps ie - eating healthy, exercising, not smoking, crack is right out!, no anal sex with young chickens, don't eat the blue Smartie's, wipe away not towards, make your bed, chew your jello, don't wear spandex...ever, don't have more than 8 televisions in your already too big house, eat paper now and again, do the moonwalk regularly but only after 11am cause people get suspicious.
It's kind of sad how people make such a joke about something which is serious(cancer) and something tht may or maynot be true(the cure) ...aren't there any more honest people left in this world? Hais..(shakes head) =(
Men can never be free, because they're weak, corrupt, worthless... and restless. The people believe in authority. They've grown tired of waiting for miracle or mystery. Science is their religion - no greater explanation exists for them! They must never believe any differently if the project is to go forward.
I've used DCA to successfully treat mammary cancer in cats...which is normally a killer, a very rapid killer with a 100% mortality rate inside of a year and no cure.
This stuff *works* people. And yet the Big pharm companies won't make it, and the vets and doctors won't use it because the pharm companies say it's untested and unsafe [which it simply not the truth.]
What would you have us do Beauty?! I lost my father to cancer 4 years ago and I miss him every god damn day but there's no use in moping around and being morbid about it. Humor is a natural cure for sadness(so Is E), and I know he'd be having a chuckle at some of this shit. We're far too concerned about how to cure cancer when in reality we should be trying to figure what truly causes it. In discovering that, we shall discover a remedy. Until then I'm gonna laugh it up like Chewbacca did on Hoth.
Um, mitochondria aren't a type of cell. They're one of the component parts of pretty well every cell in your body. I'm not a biologist and even I know that . . . If the article makes such a basic mistake as that, how are we supposed to believe that any of the rest of it is right either?
Someone find a cure for aids so i can drink blood again. Friggen starving
Dr Davis
Provide your credentials
I think we need to start with smaller mysteries first to get warmed up. What comes to mind is such favorites as,'How do they get the caramel into the Caramilk bar?' and 'Why are Tom Cruise's teeth perfectly off center?'.
Non radiation related cancer is a myth.
It is the cure that kills the patient in most cases.
And you can quote me on that.
Iiiiiiiii'm a tumor, I'm a tumor. I'm a tumor Iiiiiiiii'm a tumor, I'm a tumor. OH OH OH I'm a tumor!
Cancer cures have existed for as long as cancer has. Would anyone like to have a guess at why none have found a foothold?
If you guessed "Because they cannot be patented and more money is made by keeping us sick," then you are 100% correct. A lot of time and money is put into making the general public believe that cancer is this big, scary thing that cannot possibly be treated outside of carcinogenic therapies that are minimally successful in the long term. Most patients are not even given any treatment options outside of chemotherapy and/or radiation.
Why is that? Chemotherapy drugs make money and keep you sick. Why invest in anything non-patentable, when you can give people cancer and keep them coming back for more?
The shocking part: cancer is being cured all over the world, with methods as simple as nutritional therapy. We're all being duped.
I can provide Dr. Davis' credentials for you there Dr. Deb. 5 years at Popcorn University in nonsense 101 followed by 3 more years at Kernel College studying the art of gobbledeegook and majoring in Jabberwocky Sciences. Dr Davis is now currently sponsored by Eggo to create anti-burn cream for butter.
I am really confused by this article. I majored in biological sciences and had an emphasis in medical microbiology. If you "halt glycolysis" then the cell will die, but EVERY cell will die, not just cancer cells. Every cell in your body uses glycolysis in the mitochondria to produce ATP. This article makes NO SENSE.
People who are suffering from loved ones or him/herself being diagnosed with cancer REALLY need to look into TURMERIC and just take it as a supplement DAILY!.. Which was studied in MANY places including the University of Texas labs and it was discovered that this natural ingredient used in many Indian foods kills throat cancer cells and slows progression of breast cancer cells etc.. Medicine is not always made it can come natural. Ive read all these articles claiming DCA needs more testing but Ive read NUMEROUS articles from MANY SOURCES claming that natural benefits of Turmeric Actually works.., anti inflammatory, kills cancer cells, slows progression, when coupled with cauliflour it halts prostate cancer ETC!.. There is a lot of research having to do with turmeric..look it up if u dont believe me, and just eat it regularly (can come in pill form too!)and you may see yourself feeling and getter better. No side effects so what is to lose??
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice
http://www.ayurveda-florida.com/Ayurvedic_Materia_
http://www.turmeric-cancer.com/anderson-cancer-cen
http://www.turmeric-curcumin.com/
http://www.healthdiaries.com/eatthis/20-health-ben
@ evil pharmaceutical
Are you dumb? Cancer can be caused be caused by anything almost, like the common cold. The food you eat, the toxins you ingest, and places you live. Cancer can effect any part of the body. Learning where it starts doesn't help prevent it. There have only been 2 diseases in the history of mankind to have been completely eradicated of the face of this earth through the efforts of medicine and science. 1. Being small pox, and 2. being some bull disease. Cancer happens, you might as well just treat for it. Trying to prevent cancer is like trying to prevent any evil that occurs on this planet......
It may make NO SENSE but this is some fantastic entertainment
Damn......I sure hope I don't catch some bull disease. That sounds terrifying. I'm gonna go eat some cauliflower in the dark.
@Dr Davis
if youre going to pretend to be a cancer researcher, maybe you should know some basic bio yourself. Glycolisis is anaerobic, and only requires adenosine trphosphate for the process of phosphorilation.
@Dr. Davis
Glycolysis does NOT require oxygen. Glycolysis is the first step of energy metabolism where glucose is broken down to two molecules of puryvate. Oxygen is only needed later in the metabolic chain to work as the final electon acceptor. If there is no oxygen then the puryvate molecules formed are used as the electron acceptors (this forms lactic acid) and the metabolic chain does not proceed beond glycolysis.
If you are a cancer researcher, I am the queen of england.
But if you are a troll, well played sir, well played...
IT'S A TRAP! We can't repel trolling of this magnitude!!!
Herp, I'm tired of you telling people you're me. Stop it.
Not that i have read through the other comments to find similar statements, but i can confidently say that this article is either unreliable or completely fake.
It shows a poor understanding of basic biological knowledge, it's vague in its explanations, and overall doesn't prove anything.
Glycolysis, mitochondria, apoptosis, etc are not terms to be simply thrown around because most of the general public do no know what they mean. Glycolysis is a basic step in cell respiration, not a method of curing cancer, and CANNOT be turned off conventionally, and the production of lactic acid is merely one result of glycolysis. It should not be the main concern.
Mitochondria, though I cannot say if they program cell death, should be irrelevant in the fact that LYSOSOMES CAUSE cell death. If you really wanted cell death, just add lysosomes. Don't try to bullshit the public with garbage about using a "mitochondria method."
These are merely two major points in which i see apparent error. I am a grade 11 biology student and I can see this much fault; I advise the rest of you not to be moved by this "discovery".
You know what surprises me? In all of these hundreds of comments not one person has mentioned that mitochondria isn't a cell.
Man, cut and paste is basically the best invention EVER. Wait, let me just go to another website and quote something...."The Stone of Sunlight is hidden in Tantegel Castle. Go to the upper right area if the castle. You'll need a magic key. Walk past the key store and head down the grassy area until you hit the water. Go a couple of steps to the right and continue moving down. You think you'll go outside if you turn right. That's the whole point of the hidden staircase. It's meant to throw the player off. Go down the stairs and the Stone of Sunlight is yours!".....I'm now a master of whatever that means.
I want all of you to take a long, hard shit.
YEAH!
will that cure cancer?
Dr. Davis Dr. Davis Dr. Davis Dr. Davis Dr. Davis
Dr. Davis Dr. Davis Dr. Davis
OH OH OH Dr. Davis
@evil pharmaceutical company #4
You're in a field west of a white house with a boarded up door. There is a small mailbox here.
I am your girlfriend's pu$$y troll
OPEN MAILBOX
You get cancer. .... then you're eaten by a grue.
WHO wants to talk about MITOCHONDRIA? Show some RESPECT puny HUMANS!
In the next to the last paragraph is a link to the research page from the University of Alberta Med School. When I opened that link, it led to an article written in 2007, awaiting clinical trials in 2007. I have reason to believe this is an old, archaic (and probably proved to be not as good as claimed) piece that has little basis in fact.
I'm still wondering why the door was boarded up. Are there zombies outside? Is 'The Happening' really happening? Plus, how did cancer fit into that small mailbox? This is just too far fetched for my liking.
@epc4: Obviously the house was foreclosed on from lack of payments due to the Empire's cruel over taxing. The real question is why does the milk make you go blind and more importantly, while you're blind you can be eaten by a grue...but grue only come out in the dark, so does the milk in fact BLOT OUT THE SUN!?
Are you all really that ignorant? The information in this article is so wrong it's funny. First of all, mitochondria are not cells. They're an organelle within cells, but they're not actual cells. Second of all, glycolysis doesn't create lactic acid. Even if it did, it wouldn't allow the malignant cancerous cells to eat through the tissue or whatever. This is ridiculous. I'm in high school and I'm not fooled by this. Come on, guys! The reason why this isn't all over the news is because this is just... plain ridiculous.
its funny how its 4 years and now everyone is using it as a chat log
Perhaps it's a cloudy day, therefore no milk was needed which begs the question, are the clouds made of milk? Furthermore, the Empire is lactose intolerant leading to my final answer which is of course, mitochondria and organelle's. Catch them tonight on Conan.
Everyone, get a life. Like really.
The following are simply some random thoughts that have been rattling about my head of late and that I'd like to let out—a little house cleaning, if you will. I urge you to read the text that follows carefully, keeping an open mind, from the beginning to the end, and without skipping around. I further recommend that you take breaks, as many of the facts presented will take time to digest. If you think about it you'll see that modern medicine's crass agendas are merely a distraction. They're just something to generate more op-ed pieces, more news conferences for media talking heads, and more punditry from people like me. Meanwhile, modern medicine's thralls are continuing their quiet work of advancing modern medicine's real goal, which is to develop a Pavlovian reflex in us, to make us afraid to enable patriots to use their freedoms to save their freedoms.
It has been brought to my attention that it is legitimate to have misgivings about shabby slubberdegullions who fill our children's minds with disaffected and debasing superstitions. While this is true, modern medicine's policies are geared toward the continuation of social stratification under the rubric of "tradition". Funny, that was the same term that its operatives once used to shrink the so-called marketplace of ideas down to convenience-store size. Modern medicine's brown-nosing form of blackguardism is like a forest fire. Once it is started, none can set bounds to the resulting conflagration. The only option is to reach out for things with permanence, things beyond wealth and comfort and pleasure, things that have real meaning. While doing so won't put a stop to blackguardism, it will demonstrate decisively that modern medicine is utterly inconsistent in its views. On one hand, modern medicine insists that worthless hellions should be fêted at wine-and-cheese fund-raisers. But on the other hand, it favors enabling feebleminded duffers to punch above their weight. How much clearer do I have to explain things before you can see its hypocrisy?
At no time in the past did querulous calumniators shamble through the streets of cities, demanding rights they imagine some supernatural power has bestowed upon them. Don't give modern medicine's insinuations a credibility they don't deserve. Modern medicine has been snuggling up to rash con artists for quite some time. Hence and therefore, mumpish, headlong schemers speak in order to conceal—or at least to veil—their thoughts. The sooner it comes to grips with that reality, the better for all of us. I unequivocally maintain that we should begin the invigorating, rejuvenating process of taking personal action and advocating concrete action and specific quantifiable goals, and I have formalized my commitment to this high ideal by ensuring that I always build an inclusive, nondiscriminatory movement for social and political change. This state of affairs demands the direct assault on those lascivious antics that seek to traduce and discredit everyone but beer-guzzling sots. Modern medicine's comrades argue that big emotions come from big words. These are the same tactless humanity-haters who advertise "magical" diets and bogus weight-loss pills. This is no coincidence; modern medicine's prank phone calls are based on a denial of reality, on the substitution of a deliberately falsified picture of the world in place of reality. And this dishonesty, this refusal to admit the truth, will have some very serious consequences for all of us by the next full moon.
Modern medicine says that an open party with unlimited access to alcohol can't possibly outgrow the host's ability to manage the crowd. Such verbal gems teach us that modern medicine has declared that it's staging a revolt against everyone who dares to take up the mantle and rally good-hearted people to the side of our cause. Modern medicine is revolting all right; the very sight of it turns my stomach. All kidding aside, we must work together to study the impact of its greed, stupidity, hubris, and outright corruption on society. What can you do to help? For starters, you might want to bring important information about modern medicine's wanton, anal-retentive squibs into the limelight. I personally derive great satisfaction in doing that sort of thing because modern medicine insists that it has no choice but to provide the pretext for police-state measures. Its reasoning is that truth is whatever your grievance group says it is. Yes, I realize that that argument makes no sense, but teenagers who want to shock their parents sometimes maintain—with a straight face—that modern medicine's mistakes are always someone else's fault. Fortunately, most parents don't fall for this fraud because they know that modern medicine's minions are unified under a common goal. That goal is to advocate measures that others criticize for being excessively gruesome.
No one likes being attacked by dour, ignominious lackwits. Even worse, modern medicine exploits our fear of those attacks—which it claims will evolve in the immediate years ahead into biological, chemical, or nuclear attacks—as a pretext to produce precisely the alienation and conflict needed to redefine success and obscure failure. If you think that's scary, then you should remember that I am not interested in debating modern medicine. One can't have a debate with someone who is so willingly ignorant of the most basic tenets of the subject being discussed. We need to establish clear, justifiable definitions of deconstructionism and nonrepresentationalism so that one can defend a decision to take action when modern medicine's secret police enthrone falsehood in the very center of human thought. Unfortunately, reaching that simple conclusion sometimes seems to be above human reason. But there is a wisdom above human, and to that we must look if we are ever to stand uncompromised in a world that's on the brink of modern medicine-induced disaster. Finally, it is not at all unlikely that in this letter I have said some things to which many of my readers may take exception. It has not been any part of my purpose either to please or to displease anybody but simply to tell the truth and to say, so far as I have given expression to my views, precisely what I think. And what I think is this: Modern medicine's blind to the truth.
Well which is it 'Tired'? Like really or really? I suppose using a simile here is hinting towards a little bit of genius, or rather, like genius. I think my favorite part here is that you have taken the time to read a few comments and actually went that tiny step further to make your handle(Tired reading), into somewhat of a Facebook post such as,"Jim Smithers is going to the bathroom", but with less flair. Either way, gold star to 'Tired Reading' for his attempt at indifference.
SAY TO GRUE: Where is cancer cure?
epc#4 Actually, I'm wrong the milk keeps you from going blind. It still begs the question of how the grue can come and eat you when it's still light, or cloudy... and that music in that forest. SO CREEPY!!!!
Dr. B-rad and everyone else -- this is how the internet works. People are reading anyway. Thoughts are being made... brain cells are ACTUATING!
*burp*
I think yo crazy!
-I want a second opinion!
Good morning, how are you?
I'm Doctor Worm.
I'm interested in things.
I'm not a real doctor, but I am a real worm.
@Grue's Clues: SILLY MORTAL. The grue only come out when it is pitch black (or if you're blind apparently).
Dr. Deepak Oprah: TL;DR my friend. TL;DR
We can't stop here. This is bat country!
Just from posting on here I think my face has been flooded with radiation from my screen. I'm too hungover to move though. Where are those mitochondria when you need 'em huh?
Its a little disturbing that life is such a joke to most of you. i hope the jokers never come faced to faced with cancer and have to run to an article such as this for answers. sickness, pain and death is no joke....smarten up people.
To those bemoaning the "medical profession" as a whole, please target your animosity at the correct branch - Big Pharma. You insult your own intelligence by blaming this on the medical community et all.
Yes because the first thing to go in a cancer patient is their sense of humor.
It really doesn't take much effort to find the original research papers published on this subject, or to find summaries of the papers which are significantly more accurate than this baloney blog post.
@Dr. Conscience: Most people who can laugh about it have dealt with it. It's called life. If you don't laugh at it, it will eat you, just like a grue in the dark, you spoil sport.
Life is pain, I actually have liver cancer (no joke) so don't tell me when and what I can and cannot laugh at there dr. conscience/dr. fun police. Without laughter all we have left is fumbling around in the dark waiting for a grue to devour us. And boom goes the dynamite.
@epc4: And then you get that bone chilling MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! that scares the shit out of you every time. EVERY TIME.
I LOVE YOU, DOCTORS
SO MANY TROLLS- SO FEW PEOPLE WITH SOMETHING GOOD TO ADD!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Asshat-Hater: You're a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Sounds Legit, yo
Cancer cells generally use glycolysis rather than respiration (oxidative phosphorylation) for energy (the Warburg effect), as a result of hypoxia that exists in tumors and damaged mitochondria.[13] Usually dangerously damaged cells kill themselves via apoptosis, a mechanism of self-destruction that involves mitochondria, but this mechanism fails in cancer cells.
A phase one study published in January 2007 by researchers at the University of Alberta, who had tested DCA on cancer cells grown in mice, found that DCA restored mitochondrial function, thus restoring apoptosis, killing cancer cells and shrinking the tumors.[14]
These results received extensive media attention, beginning with an article in New Scientist titled "Cheap, ‘safe’ drug kills most cancers".[15] Subsequently, the American Cancer Society and other medical organizations have received a large volume of public interest and questions regarding DCA.[16] Clinical trials in humans with cancer have not been conducted in the USA and are not yet final in Canada, emphasizing the need for caution in interpreting the preliminary results.[16][17]
Can't believe I just wasted an hour of my life reading through all those comments.
some people will believe anything they read on the interwebz.
I'm starting to think that there have been zero papers published past 2007. Say that 5 times quickly. Don't hate the asshats, hate the ass that made it into a hat and sold it to you.
And, how does curing cancer make you all feel?
According to cancer research I have recently participated in, it's possible that pie could be the cure for cancer. We're currently testing possible side effects and the only dangerous found in some patients during research is CFAD (Chronic Fat Ass Disorder), but it can be avoided if the user of, "pie" maintains a healthy diet.
Hm. "Nat :)" I think that you'll find that in glycosis. A delocalised electron is left over in the mitochondrial process that causes the starch chain within the mitochondria is caused to become a negative ion. This then bonds with your mum and beautiful children are produced.
lmfao you all just got trolled by my fake cancer paper xD suck it! awesome job wasting dozens of minutes reading! lmfalmfalmfalmfalmfalmfa cancer cures are for vaginas
Now I'm playing Zork like a boss.
I love anonymous comments. Some of these have had me LOL'n hard. Good show everyone. Good show.
Excuse me, I'm still here... chose someone else to come back as.
UGH. Mitochondria are NOT cells.
Which makes me highly doubt the validity of the article.
we got cancer out there in the zones, killjoys!
I have many leather-bound books, and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.
This is so horrible. Instead of saving lives they are concerned with making more money. money truly is the root of all evil.
He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of the big C.
the moment i read this article, I thought about my escape route incase of "I am legend" darkseekers came about.
I love how there were 3 comments in 4 years and now there's thousands of shit posts from /b/.
Everyone's status: TROLLED HARD.
i vant to cure your cancer!
It's sick that people would forward something like this and give false hope to those who are suffering.
This article is complete bullshit. None of the science makes sense especially the part about mitochondria. They are organelles, not cells! Don't believe me? Go back to your middle school science teacher.
You are eaten by a Grue, but no one takes notice.
Pharmaceutical companies are the biggest evil of the world! They don't want to cure you. They want to SELL YOU DRUGS for as long as it's possible and as expensive as they can be. Ideally so expensive they have to be funded by the national health fund (the taxpayers). Simple best solutions are not promoted. The same thing happens with Multiple Sclerosis and other health conditions. Follow me on twitter: redredeye
Pharmaceutical companies are the biggest evil of the world! They don't want to cure you. They want to SELL YOU DRUGS for as long as it's possible and as expensive as they can be. Ideally so expensive they have to be funded by the national health fund (the taxpayers). Simple best solutions are not promoted. The same thing happens with Multiple Sclerosis and other health conditions. Follow me on twitter: redredeye
What? Mitochondria are NOT cells?! Why, thank you for bringing it up. I have NEVER been told that before.
donuts and moose meat
I sold my soul to the devil in exchange for the cure for cancer, but I am keeping it to myself so I can get rich off peddling poison, burn and slash remedies that make your life even more miserable than it is already. See you in hell suckers. MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The pharmaceutical industry has no interest in curing any disease- and that might have something to do with the fact that the human race has actually "cured" so few diseases EVER, that I cannot even name one. It would come as NO surprise to me that the FDA not "approve" any potential cure, due to their only existence being due to it's sworn allegiance with big pharma
the problem is that we've become so ingrained with "treating" disease, that everyone forgot to look for cures. #1 issue with medicine today. All other arguments will assuredly lead directly back to this one. (Please, I welcome any and all rebuttals of my statement. And at least one person always needs to play devil's advocate, for the discussion to truly be educational. Same rebuttal policy in effect for that statement as well).
No, I'm sure it's the guidance system.
I concur.
Here's a link to the Journal where the study was published.
http://www.cell.com/cancer-cell/retrieve/pii/S1535
You can download the PDF by clicking the PDF link on the right hand side of the page..
Check it out!
@Serious Business: Which in itself, is serious business. :D
Interesting that so many are using Wikipedia as a source of infallible information. It is a content site that is USER generated, folks. There's a relatively complex set of hoops to jump through in order to submit, and if someone finds an error in a so-called "fact" they can make a citation, comment or whatever, but the bottom line is that Wikipedia is little more than a regurgitation of stuff that's already out there, codified into a sort of pseudo-encyclopaedia with some vetting for facts, but by no means comprehensive. I have found many errors in Wiki pages, and certainly never use info found there as gospel. It should merely be used as a jumping-off point to lead one to the actual source material for any given subject.
It's general knowledge that of all academics doctors are the least smart. Even doctors know that. Go and ask. So, though funny, it's a mute point to argue any of their failures. "Oh my, great shock, all 'our knowledge' is easily accessible in libraries and on the internet. I'm no longer recognized as the source of hope in anxious times. People are going to hurt themselves. Let me call papa drug provider to ask what to do next."
How about we just go back in time and kill people who have cancer and thoroughly "inspect" the reproductive system of all the clean ladies for other possible complications?
Give me a second, I'm having an epiphany here...

justjanice 4 years ago
This is what makes me so cross about the medical profession. They are only interested in Money. The pharmaceutical companies are ruthless in their quest. I was very interested in your article, as we have lost a few family members in the last 3 years to cancer. Surely someone working for these companies has a conscience, and can push for it to be patented. I really hope your article can become internationally known.